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    EB Unit Dictator/Administrator Member Urnamma's Avatar
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    Default But why isn't this in EB yet!

    Because we haven't made it. Anyone who wants to write descriptions for buildings and what not that do not have them (and are willing to do the research), go ahead and take a crack at it. If we like it, we'll include it.

    Recruitment areas that need to be addressed by more units:

    Southern Italy:

    Southern Italy will eventually have Italian units. Bruttians, Lucanians, Samnites et al. We know that the Romans can't recruit natives there yet, and we're working hard to address it.

    Epirus:

    The provinces north of epirus (Illyria and Noricum) will eventually have their own native units as well, Illyrians, Paionians, and Noricenes, for Epirus to recruit. Have patience. I need to find folks to skin said units. Until that happens, we can't add them :-)

    If you want to ask a specific question regarding the recruitment or other incompleteness regarding the beta, I'll add it to this post, and then delete your reply (so that the thread doesn't become clogged).

    Spartans:

    We will have Spartan Hoplites! Don't despair! They won't be overpowered or 500 B.C.-ish, but they'll be there!

    There will be balearic troops, there will be lusitanians (the iberian faction could be called the lusato/iberian faction, honestly... there will be a lot).

    Cretans will be there, Rhodian slingers might be (but probably). There will be no camel units. Camel riders are rare, as rare as flaming pigs. There is some argument whether camel-riders even rode them into battle. Bedouins, for example, often rode camels to battle, but then switched to horses for the battle itself.

    Yes, there will be a native Sardinian.
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    Default Re: But why isn't this in EB yet!

    Is the recruitment system for Carthage also WIP? Because in some of their conquered provinces you're only able to recruit Iberian Velites (even with a MIC 5). Same thing with some of their starting provinces, Carali and Aleria I think (I forgot the EB names).

    Also, I think the recruitment system for Baktria needs some fixes too because you're unable to recruit cathapracts in their homeland provinces but you can train them in Syracuse for instance.


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    Default Re: But why isn't this in EB yet!

    Will there be Balearic slingers and new Iberian units like Lusitanians for example ?
    Can I also add on my wishlist Cretan archers, Rhodian slingers, Garamantes, a Bedouin-camel-unit, will these guys be in ?
    And the last one, will there be some natives troops from Corsica or Sardinia ?
    Thanks


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    Default Re: But why isn't this in EB yet!

    Everything thing is WIP, that's why it's a beta.

    Most of those units will go in, probably not a camel unit though, they were only used very rarely and take up a lot of model slots for something that wasn't even heavily used by the Arabian nomads. Most often the Camel would be ridden to battle and in retreat but a horse would be used for actual combat.
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    Default Re: But why isn't this in EB yet!

    Ah, I'm glad to hear the wonderful samnite mercs will soon be Localized units in Southern Italy.

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    What happened to the Chalkaspidai? They were previewed but they aren't in the open beta.... Admittingly, at least I can't find them in custom battle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ypoknons
    What happened to the Chalkaspidai? They were previewed but they aren't in the open beta.... Admittingly, at least I can't find them in custom battle...

    I think the unit was being remade. Don't worry, I think that unit is now completed. ;)

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    Default Re: But why isn't this in EB yet!

    There are some units that don't have translated names, especially mercs, Carthaginians, and Yuezhi. Will their names be translated into a language eventually?
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    Default Re: But why isn't this in EB yet!

    A couple of things that need to be adressed are native africans and sicilians.

    Currently Carthage is recuiting spaniards in africa and sicily
    and libyans in sicily, though i can sort of understand that.

    Also, there are no native african units aside from numidians. What happened to african light infantry, tribal levies, moorish infantry and cavalry, libyan chariots, and other such things. All i see in africa are numidians and greek mercenaries.

    I would really love to see libyan chariot mercenaries if nothing else



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    Default Re: But why isn't this in EB yet!

    Quote Originally Posted by tk-421
    There are some units that don't have translated names, especially mercs, Carthaginians, and Sarmatians. Will their names be translated into a language eventually?
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    Conventionally yes. Feel free to point the untranslated ones out, in case they were overlooked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
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    Conventionally yes. Feel free to point the untranslated ones out, in case they were overlooked.
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    Okay, I've made a list of all of the untranlated or partially translated units that I know about. Many of the units are available to a lot of different factions. I've tried to arrange them by region or culture or type of unit.

    Numidian Cavalry Placeholder
    Numidian Javelinmen
    Liby-Phoenician Heavy Infantry
    Liby-Phoenician Infantry
    Libyan Spearmen
    Poeni Citizen Militia
    Sacred Band Phalanx
    Elite African Pikemen
    Elite African Infantry
    Carthaginian Citizen Cavalry
    Sacred Band Cavalry

    Iberian Assault Infantry
    Almost all Iberian units have the word "Iberian" (example:Iberian Velites, Iberian Scutarii) in front of them. I don't know if that is the way it is supposed to be or if there is an ancient word for "Iberian".

    All elephant units

    germanic_infantry_fernharjoz

    Aspet Cavalry
    Kappadocian Cavalry
    Pontic General

    Machimoi Cavalry
    Kleruchoi Agemata Cavalry

    Indo-Greek Hoplite
    Indian Longbowmen

    Sampal Infantry
    Subeshi Archers
    Early Yuezhi Nobles

    Hellenistic Kataphractoi

    Chaeonian Guard

    Repeating Ballistas

    Maybe the "Galatian" in Galatian Kleruchoi and Kluddolon

    Maybe the "Caledonian" in Caledonian Rhyfelwyr

    Samnite Spearman
    Samnite Heavy Infantry

    All fleets (at least for the Romani and Koinon Hellenon) have the word "fleet" in them.

    Edit: I was looking throught the EXPORT_DESCR_UNIT.TXT file and I saw that all of the Carthaginian units, Chaeonian Guard, and Kappadocian Cavalry have translated names, they just weren't in the right text file.
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    Default Re: But why isn't this in EB yet!

    After palying with Makedonia I can not recruit Hypaspistai, Pheraspidai and Hetairoi. I have built the last barracks in Huge cities but I can only recruit Peltastai and Pezhaiteroi from the advanced units. Is this a bug or EB forgot to add them?
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    Default Re: But why isn't this in EB yet!

    Post the problem in this thread:
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...t=59053&page=4

    so Big_John can take a look at it. He may have fixed it already, but I'm not sure.
    Last edited by Malrubius; 01-25-2006 at 17:10.

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