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    Here it is, if you do not want to be investigated, or your lines of communications tapped, or impeded ... then never (as in ever) type these words or vocalise them on a phone (btw beware what you say in front of people you think are your friends):

    1) jihad
    2) terrorist (s)
    3) muslim (s)
    4) communism (ist, or marxist, or liberal ... all are now key words for the new NSA)
    5) freedom
    6) anti-Bush thoughts
    7) anti-Cheny anything
    8) anti-Iraq war
    9) democrats
    10) aethiest (or Darwinism, etc)
    11) pro-choice
    12) BOMB (biggy here, never use this or any insinuation about an explotion).
    13) drugs - MJ, smack, smoke, crack, etc - all are doom for you.

    By using any of these terms or counter-Bush-cultural ideals you will signal a response to those now over seeing the freedom of america, and will be dealt with as such. Meaning; you low life scum sucking liberal must die! Or, atleast have all your wealth sucked out of you and given to the real wealthy people that deserve it - especially the Republican "rangers" (those that contribute $100,000 or more to the party that is right).

    Seems fair, that to defend the freedom of our nation that an oversight group would do so by the technologic means available. Doing so to undermine the opposition party and its supporters - seems a bit paranoid and adventageous, but fair by the standards of the party that be. Or, the one that has bought America thru the ideals of paranoid thought - and

    What I said about the 12 points is fact. It is documented and men with honor have quit their posts rather than lie.

    IMO, we are less than half-a-step from no longer being able to call ourselves a democracy. We are a breath away from simply being a warmongering society - which is pretty much how the world now sees us. Pity. Don'y ya thinks?

    This is a rant - of sorts. But, it is all true - the 12 points exist. The paranoia of our executive branch is real. That America is now a nation of WAR is real.

    Still, being paranoid about one's freedom is what those that truely cherish it do. Those concerned about their wealfare and willing to give up their freedoms for it? Well, in the past in some nations they were later called nazis.
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    Erm...

    I think I met all of your categories:

    1. jihad - "you see, I launched this jihad against the French and they're like, down , man. Paris..."
    2) terrorist - "I'm gonna grow up to be a revolutionary." - me (does that count?)
    3) muslim - my friend's a Muslim and I asked him some questions from time to time.
    4) communism - ha! This one's often...
    5) freedom - "Why do I hate freedom?" - I told this to a friend
    6) anti-Bush thoughts - how about, anti-Bush rants, to your friend, during lunch, in a library?
    7) anti-Cheny anything - that is even worse: DICK Cheney makes a good joke.
    8) anti-Iraq war - my teacher did that ~;P
    9) democrats - that Muslim friend told me he's a "democrat." When I said liberal he interpreted me to be a moderate...WTF?
    10) aethiest (or Darwinism, etc) - how about, publicly admit myself as an Atheist, even though I'm not that sure myself?
    11) pro-choice - kinda...yeah...not into that stuff, but...
    12) BOMB - bomb is just a word. "I bombed the hell outta the other guy" - Counter-strike,: Source, grenade, conversation.
    13) drugs - I did. I never use drugs though.

    And I continue to post here, free and alive. So I'm not sure your claim is legitimate.

    Bush is not clever enough to do something like that, you know, he can't even stop a simple jihad by some backwood Muslim terrorists. He can only call harmless people who stands in Cheney's LITTLE way: "commie bastard" and "why d'ya hate freedom, yo?" I mean, he screws up even Iraq! Even the Godless, Atheistic, Darwin-loving dems won't do that! And he keeps talking about pro-life while he kills people, even though the GOOD thing to do is allow choice for women. BOMB, man! No doubt he can't stop a simple BOMB! He's on drugs, I tell ya!

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    See?

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    There was a British comedian who did a show a while back about phone tapping and keywords , especially on cellular phones .
    His advice was that if the government wants to spy on people make them listen to every boring conversation you ever have , always start your conversation with the word Semtex or Kalashnikov and make the bastards record , listen to and analyse every little detail of how you missed the bus and are going to be late for dinner .

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    My friends among the first generation 'Dutch hackers' give the same advice as the British comedian, and they have been aware of Echelon's existrence and modus operandi quite a bit longer. But basically this is all unnecessary as the keyword-based dragnet of the NSA doesn't work properly anyway. It targets mostly innocents. This has been known for some time. The New York Times has a piece on it today.
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    I don't know. Wire tapping isn't great, but it's alot different from having the Gestapo break into your home nad drag you away at night. You could argue that this is the first step to that kind of nation, but calling the current policies "The Iron Curtain" Goes too far. Do you have any reports of people being dragged way just because they said "Pro-life"? If you so, then I'll admit that the President has gone too far and needs to be removed from office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiochusIII
    Erm...
    1. jihad - "you see, I launched this jihad against the French and they're like, down , man. Paris..."
    Saw that and I thought... quickest way for something to go down is either have a capital called Paris, a prince called Paris or be a Paris Hilton.
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    Aristocratic kitchens? Extremely unclean? One doesn't like to complain old boy, but that just is not fair.

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    Joking aside, I really don't get the kitchens one.
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    neither do i - i dont even know the origin of this map - it was mysteriously emailed to me minutes before i saw this post (true story)


    Quote Originally Posted by Slyspy
    Aristocratic kitchens? Extremely unclean? One doesn't like to complain old boy, but that just is not fair.

    PS
    Joking aside, I really don't get the kitchens one.

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    It all seems absurd, granted. But, according to numerous source (even Times had a #'s thing in their Washington btw thingy about over 2million Americans being monotered - 223million American conversations in 2005) it seems that the president has signed up for wholesale invasion of privacy - to cover his ass in the invasion of the other political party. All of course in the name of fighting terrorism - those dirty-rotten-liberal-terrorist-abortion approving- bastards.

    Seems fair. Seems a bit ascew only by those that don't comprehend the need to stop the terrorist willing to commit abortion, send individual funds to the Democrats (versus corporate financing of the Republican party - must be nice being a Rebuplican identifier that never has to send a dime), those mansy-pansys that won't sponser an ill conceived war, those cretons that don't comprehend what a great thing bankrupting the nation is ... or simply those illiterate enough to still believe America is a democracy and not a Republican-theocratic-militaristic-corporate sanctioned wonderland for the extremely wealthy.

    Key words for investigation : Bush made a mistake.
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    Bush wiretapped my convo, but decided he would join in. First he asked me if I wanted some wood. Then he rambled on about shame on him, shame on me, once fooled, twice bitten, three times shy... It just didn't make any sense so I just hung up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solypsist
    neither do i - i dont even know the origin of this map
    prejudice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Clegane
    You know, I'd like to be prejudiced in many of the ways presented there.

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    1) jihad - it means "Holy War" who gives a crap?
    2) terrorist - ....so let me get this straight, to hunt down terrorists their going to keep you from saying it?
    3) muslim - it's a religious background and Muslims say their Muslim to describe their own background
    4) communism - ....Communisim would be the perfect governement if people only cared about each other, but that isn't the way the world turns.
    5) freedom - never say that? it's a FREE country for crying out loud
    6) anti-Bush thoughts - I am a pro-Bush person so I am not in trouble there
    7) anti-Cheny anything - I barely speak of him period
    8) anti-Iraq war - it's ANTI-TERRORIST war not anti-Iraq war
    9) democrats - ....your point, is he planning an assassination of Ted Kennedy? (oh man I would love for that drunk to die....whoops)
    10) aethiest - Bush is a christian so I don't see why he'd bother with the Atheist religion (and it is one)
    11) pro-choice - Bush/Cheney are agaisnt abortion so I don't see where your headed
    12) BOMB - for anyone interested in anything that word is used everywhere
    13) Drugs - so people do them, I don't care because I never will



    Moral:

    the NSA should listen to EVERYTHING your saying, not just a few words, everybody says the above, that doesn't make them terrorist.


    and FYI, they do listen to everything.


    anyone who thinks that Bush is doing wrong with this is A TRAITOR TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND SHOULD BE LYNCHED



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanemerkel1
    Moral:

    the NSA should listen to EVERYTHING your saying, not just a few words, everybody says the above, that doesn't make them terrorist.


    and FYI, they do listen to everything.


    anyone who thinks that Bush is doing wrong with this is A TRAITOR TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND SHOULD BE LYNCHED
    No dissention is how this country was founded. This is a violent invasion of privacy. If youre honestly this scared of terrorism then you should move to sweeden. Hell I disagree with Bush Hell I hate nearly every polotican in power. So if you find me you can lynch me. How does that sound?
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    Ironically, if this level of monitoring existed before America was independent and in the hands of the British, then everyone who wrote the Declaration of Independence would have been hanged long before it was completed.

    On the other hand, monitoring the conversations of so many people must create lots of jobs. Always a good thing.

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    those cretons that don't comprehend what a great thing bankrupting the nation is
    On the other hand, monitoring the conversations of so many people must create lots of jobs. Always a good thing
    Especially for the guys from Crete it seems.
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    Moral:

    the NSA should listen to EVERYTHING your saying, not just a few words, everybody says the above, that doesn't make them ist.


    and FYI, they do listen to everything.


    anyone who thinks that Bush is doing wrong with this is A TRAITOR TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND SHOULD BE LYNCHED

    Why everyone? I can understand why they would want to listen to a conversation in Arabic or one from the U.S to the Middle East, but why "everything"? Isn't that just a violation of privacy?

    And I hope you weren't serious with that last bit of ALLCAPS....
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    Quote Originally Posted by strike for the south
    No dissention is how this country was founded. This is a violent invasion of privacy. If youre honestly this scared of terrorism then you should move to sweeden. Hell I disagree with Bush Hell I hate nearly every polotican in power. So if you find me you can lynch me. How does that sound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanemerkel1
    9/11 chnged the world, we can't go back to the fantasy one we knew.
    We also cant go parniod becuase a few camel ******* want to hurt us. I will not trade what being an american is for the illusion of safety
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    I once heard that the NSA tapes all communication that includes the word "snow". Because it's used by drug dealers to paraphrase cocain. Secret services often are enthusiast about gathering information without thinking about how to analyse it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanemerkel1
    anyone who thinks that Bush is doing wrong with this is A TRAITOR TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND SHOULD BE LYNCHED
    Anyone who makes silly (and aggressive) statements like the above, should reconsider his posting style, lest he draws (potentially unpleasant) moderator attention to himself.


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