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    Default Quo Vadis, America?

    Reflecting about things that happaned since 9/11, I was wondering where America is going: Twin Towers, decrease of rights and increase of observation, war in Afghanistan, quarrel with the UN and the allies, operation against Saddam, the doctrin of preventive warfare, victory, occupation and terrorism in Iraq, proof that the main cause was wrong, the torture in one prison, Gitmo, hidden prisons in abroad, discussion when torture is right or wrong or when it is torture at all, kidnapping of suspects ...

    Where will this end? Will there be a lasting trauma, increasing willingness of violence in the American life and policy, or will America return to a normal mode again?

    What do you Americans think? What does the rest think?

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    This, my friend, is the beginning of the decline of the America we know today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sjakihata
    This, my friend, is the beginning of the decline of the America we know today.
    Nah, more like a wake up call.



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    Well considering we had internment camps for Japanese and German American citizens back in WW2, I guess we're doing pretty good since we've yet to lock up our Muslim population yet. Don't be decieved, we're doing fine even if the American hating Left tells you we aren't.
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    I'm getting laid more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
    I'm getting laid more
    Well, it appears the good Major is doing a little "tapping" of wires as well.
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    gulp...its very hard for me to say but its disturbing how alike our culture is becoming to all the falling empires, unless we get a really good leader to pull us out i see a depression in the future as other countries take away our commerce, oil prices will kill us as our countrys companies make no attempt to remedy there greed. patroitism will fall and people will care less for america, if we have weakened leaders i see costly wars as other countries notice our economic crisis...that is maybe that will happen, but if i become president i will make america the shining light of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franconicus
    Reflecting about things that happaned since 9/11,
    It's quite the irony that the .org is devoted to things historical and yet you seem to be blissfully ignorant them. You think things are bad now ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    It's quite the irony that the .org is devoted to things historical and yet you seem to be blissfully ignorant them. You think things are bad now ?
    Quite an unnecessary (and incorrect) snide remark

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    Incorrect?

    Inappropriately snidey, yes, but I don't know about incorrect.

    Things were pretty bad during the Depression.

    In hindsight, it wasn't the end. But how many knew that during the Depression?

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    I don't know. One of America's outstanding qualities is it's ability to reinvent itself, to rejuvenate itself. It has had difficult times before. But they always bounce back up, with renewed spirit and vigour. It never seems to completely lose that feeling of innocent optimism.

    On the other hand, in my nightmares, I do fear a definite, irreversible conservative backlash. But this proces isn't the result of 9-11, it was merely sped up by it and it's aftermath.
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    You have nightmares about America? Thats werid the only nightmares I have about France is the one where Chirac finally snaps and holds our freedom fry supply hostage!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
    Incorrect?

    Inappropriately snidey, yes, but I don't know about incorrect.
    Incorrect, as the original post did not at all imply that the US hasn't seen worse situations in the past - incorrect (and snidey), in implying that the thread starter is ignorant.

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    Yeah. On further review of the play, offensive and incorrect statement and snide remark. 15 yard penalty, repeat second down!

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