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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    It's quite the irony that the .org is devoted to things historical and yet you seem to be blissfully ignorant them. You think things are bad now ?
    Quite an unnecessary (and incorrect) snide remark

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    Incorrect?

    Inappropriately snidey, yes, but I don't know about incorrect.

    Things were pretty bad during the Depression.

    In hindsight, it wasn't the end. But how many knew that during the Depression?

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    I don't know. One of America's outstanding qualities is it's ability to reinvent itself, to rejuvenate itself. It has had difficult times before. But they always bounce back up, with renewed spirit and vigour. It never seems to completely lose that feeling of innocent optimism.

    On the other hand, in my nightmares, I do fear a definite, irreversible conservative backlash. But this proces isn't the result of 9-11, it was merely sped up by it and it's aftermath.
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    You have nightmares about America? Thats werid the only nightmares I have about France is the one where Chirac finally snaps and holds our freedom fry supply hostage!
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    Quote Originally Posted by strike for the south
    You have nightmares about America? Thats werid the only nightmares I have about France is the one where Chirac finally snaps and holds our freedom fry supply hostage!
    i understand your fear, those would be dark days

    i think that america may be able to reinvent itself but you must not overlook the staggering fact that corruption is higher than ever, our basic rights are being questioned, we have started a war that everyone thinks is frivolous, public virtue is little to none in some places, we have become heavily entrenched in technology that may or may not advance in the world, big business has all but crushed small business, our commerce is being shipped overseas, there is a mounting threat of warfare from our foes, racism and anger twards countries erodes our internatiional standing, terrorism, and people like me...other than those we got nothin to worry about.
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    We've gone through worse and made it through. The only problem is now we have Liberals who actually talk (but don't think) so we can't get anything done without being called racist or annoyed at violating "Terrorist Rights." Terrorists have rights? Apparently they do, after Sept. 11th.

    Too bad we cannot charge the Democratic Party with Treason. Get the Republicans too. And the Greens. And all them tiny socialist parties.

    Vote Constitution Party 2008 (hahahahahahhaha but really)

    I say we get all the conservatives, move to a small, democratic country, and vote ourselves in. Over and over and over again.

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    Yeah, but who'd want to let you in in the first place ? Betcha they'd just turn you back at Customs and tell you to leave civilized people alone...
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    If I didn't pay any attention to the news I wouldn't know that anything had occurred...

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    Quote Originally Posted by strike for the south
    You have nightmares about America?
    I do, in fact. Of the kind in which the country which is the champion of the west becomes fatally anti-scientific; creationist; under the spell of religious extremists; militaristic; gun-toting; led by lobbyists and special interest groups; and where women need to have abortions in dark alleys.

    In short, irreversibly estranged from mainstream western Europe. It would be the end of any sense of a common western civilization and would mean a definitive breakup of transatlantic ties. Just at a time when large parts of the globe are catching up and are about to become serious contenders for the west.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis IV the Fat
    I do, in fact. Of the kind in which the country which is the champion of the west becomes fatally anti-scientific; creationist; under the spell of religious extremists; militaristic; gun-toting; led by lobbyists and special interest groups; and where women need to have abortions in dark alleys.

    In short, irreversibly estranged from mainstream western Europe. It would be the end of any sense of a common western civilization and would mean a definitive breakup of transatlantic ties. Just at a time when large parts of the globe are catching up and are about to become serious contenders for the west.
    I have an answer for that
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    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
    Incorrect?

    Inappropriately snidey, yes, but I don't know about incorrect.
    Incorrect, as the original post did not at all imply that the US hasn't seen worse situations in the past - incorrect (and snidey), in implying that the thread starter is ignorant.

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    Yeah. On further review of the play, offensive and incorrect statement and snide remark. 15 yard penalty, repeat second down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good




    Perhaps I should use that one as avatar

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    It has... impact.

    ...and a smoky, robust oaken aroma...(/wine taster)
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    All empires (I consider America to be an Empire. In my book, that's a compliment ) decline and fall. It is a fact of history. To think otherwise is foolish and arrogant (hell, even the Nazis knew that they would evebtually end). America will fall, one day. Whether it will tomorrow or in fifty years time or more, no one can really know. But all things come to an end.
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