Seems some do not believe I am UglyElmo

[UglyElmo2]

I must give my goodbyes after 5+ years participating here. Given my old email account is no longer valid and I do not remember my old password, I have no way of posting in the other sections. A few people here appear to have doubts as to my real identity. Thinking I am imitating Elmo. Since I am not sure what proof I could provide which would make certain individuals 100% sure, I haved decided to finally and completely retire from this forum. It is obvious my participation here is not wanted so therefor I will go to the .com, the Pond and the Ugli forums instead.

Most of you have known me as UglyElmo or ElmarkOFear. Please feel free to visit our ugli website or join me at the .com forums. I am still known there as ElmarkOFear.

To any moderator or admin: Please delete my "TW wishlist" thread in the MP section of this forum. I will no longer be able to work on it or reply with questions.

Good luck in the future.

UglyElmo aka. ElmarkOFear

[CBR]

You always were a quitter Elmo

But yes I do find it odd how you could manage to login on your ElmarkOFear account and then merely 11 hours later forget your password. But I guess its the age

I can make an account on Ugli forums for you to PM with your new email?


CBR

[ElmarkOFear]

Seems the work PC still remembers my ElmarkOFear name and password, but unfortunately I no longer have the old email addy attached to it and thus, cannot get the password sent to me.

What I find unfortunate is Tosa claiming I could be an imposter. I even mentioned the "CAV ARE OVERPOWERED" discussion you and I were having and how I was sent a warning by both Tosa AND Tootie. :)

Anyways, my retirement is still in effect. You may delete the ElmarkOFear, UglyElmo and UglyElmo2 accounts.

Its been fun, but time to move on.

[Monarch]

I'm not sure about vBulletin, but I used to be active on InvisionFree forums and we often had this trouble over forgotten passwords and proving identity. Back then, admins could see a posters IP address, if this normalname2's IP adress matched normalname's IP adress then obviously it's the same guy.

Could this technique not be applied here?

However if it cannot, then I guess have fun over at .com :)

[KukriKhan]

Much depends on whether the IP address is 'dynamic' (changes on every login) or 'static' (always the same). Nevertheless, we did follow the protocol you outlined above. There were (are) 5 different account names, linked to 5 different emails, and 3 verifiable IP addresses.

We take our member's privacy and account integrity very seriously here - in the past, we have had non-members attempt to masquerade as known, reputable members. So we scrutinize password issues very closely.

After "due diligence" investigation, we offered to reset this member's password. Whether he takes the offer, or continues to visit, is up to him.

[Monarch]

Much depends on whether the IP address is 'dynamic' (changes on every login) or 'static' (always the same). Nevertheless, we did follow the protocol you outlined above. There were (are) 5 different account names, linked to 5 different emails, and 3 verifiable IP addresses.

We take our member's privacy and account integrity very seriously here - in the past, we have had non-members attempt to masquerade as known, reputable members. So we scrutinize password issues very closely.

After "due diligence" investigation, we offered to reset this member's password. Whether he takes the offer, or continues to visit, is up to him.

Ah yeah I forgot about those dynamic IPs. Still, how are you getting the IPs? (I gotta learn more about vB ) On InvisionFree it appeared every time somebody made a post, under their user name. Thus you can tell if it's dyamic by looking at old posts and comparing. So if the original account did not have a proxy, then the method I described above could be employed.

[t1master]

http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntotal...icID=917.topic

there's elmarko's post at the .com

interesting times in the mp community eh?

[Duke John]

That is a shame to hear, I always found it fun to read about your adventures on the battlefield!

[R'as al Ghul]

Seems the work PC still remembers my ElmarkOFear name and password, but unfortunately I no longer have the old email addy attached to it and thus, cannot get the password sent to me.

You could copy the cookies set by totalwar.org to your
private computer. You should be able to log in from home, then.

[TosaInu]

01-18-2006, 01:10 PM UglyElmo2 to TosaInu

Hi Tosa. I have moved email addys as have lost my old passwords for ElmarkOFear and UglyElmo. I had things on "remember my password" but it didn't remember for some reason. :)

If you would, please give the permissions for this new username for the rest of the forums.

Thanks

BTW: You still playing MTW or STW at all?

:It is possible that Elmo lost his passwords and can no longer use his old accounts, it's nasty to lose your years old trusty account like that, an account that also got a few privileges here -> verify it is Elmo and send him new details:


01-18-2006, 10:11 PM from TosaInu to UglyElmo2

Hello UglyElmo2,

It's possible to manually reset the ElmarkOFear and/or UglyElmo accounts.

ElmarkOFear is a known in the totalwar community, thus I require proof that those accounts don't fall to the wrong hands.

:This is redundant, if not an outright lie, as we always take care when users lost their details. But some extra care has to be taken here as (I'm so bad and biased):
-ElmarkOFear is around for 5 years,
-It's a high privilege account
-Elmark operates in the MP scene and it would not be the first time one tries to pull the other a leg for 'giggles'.
-I recall seeing a low postcount Elmo lately: could be Elmo or indeed someone -^ Follow up now: yes I saw a pussiecat, but that is just another of Elmos accounts. No problem, no worry, me bad, me paranoid, me very nasty.
I'm also very sorry for the terrible 9 (NINE) hours it took to respond.:


01-18-2006, 18:18 PM UglyElmo2 to TosaInu

Here is some proof for you: MTW CAV ARE OVERPOWERED! And you can tell Name Removed By Admin I said so! :)

How do I manually reset my old username when I no longer have access to the old email addy and do not remember the password? I believe the password for my ElmarkOFear name was the old one from when I was a moderator here: Some random string that can be a part of a password removed by Admin .. . . I cannot remember the password unfortunately.

My old email addy is: e-mail removed by Admin the new one is another, new, e-mail removed by Admin . Let me know what other info. you may need. You can visit the Ugly site and ask Olds or Obake if I am who I say I am. :) I can send you a jug o' my infamous shine or I can threaten to send you naked pics of myself if you don't let me in! hehe

:Several people in the community know Elmo says/feels/knows MTW cav are overpowered. I can't tell from this it's Elmo.

-I don't know this new e-mail addy, it looks like the old one, which is in neither profiles, but that doesn't prove me anything either. Luck and Duck also look similar, I know I'm dumb. I do recall that the old e-mail is used by Elmo in the past to contact me and I'm sure that was Elmo. I can shut down this PC, swap all cables, boot the old PC and check old mails, but the old mail no longer works. So, I can't just e-mail Elmo to ask.

-Elmo was moderator here. Yes, that's right. But several people know that.

-Jug o shine or send naked pics of myself: several people know this too and anyone could write this.

So I need to learn more to ensure the valuable account doesn't fall to the wrong person.:


01-18-2006, 18:45 PM TosaInu to UglyElmo

27 minutes, still slow but it's getting better.

Hello UglyElmo2,

MTW cav are overpowered: sorry too vague. No proof.

Old e-mail: not according to the database. No proof.

ElmarkOFear aka UglyElmo was a moderator here long ago. It's possible for the admin to check on Some random string that can be a part of a password removed by Admin, but since it's not proven that you're the owner of those accounts, I can't ask permission nor do.

Obake is added in both my ICQ and MSN contact list for years. I know the nick and trust his word. So, the Obake ICQ/MSN account giving the ok would be good.

ElmarkOFear aka UglyElmo and I know each other for years. There are enough other identifications.

Threats/'threats' and blackmail/'blackmail' is not something that would work.

:It's Elmo in which case the account should be re-activated or it's an imposter in which case he shouldn't be made wiser by silly me talking too much. It is Elmo, in which case it was a 'threat' or it's an imposter and the next move is stirring trouble in the forums to get his way, in which case it is a threat. Per his own suggestion, I'll contact Obake about this. Tosa checking ICQ and MSN: no Obake is not on, different timezones.

Kids ask mom a cookie and then go to dad when they don't get it (immediately), disclaimer: thinking kid in case it's an imposter, thus I have to inform KukriKhan too:


01-18-2006, 18:49 PM TosaInu to KukriKhan
4 minutes! I start to rock!

Hello KukriKhan,

I received a PM about this. Since Elmark is a known and me not wanting to give his account to the imposter jerks that swarm around this community for years, I want solid proof.

Let me handle this please and let me be the dork.

:Canine intuition.
Still don't see Obake and I have to prepare to leave into the real world tonight. Don't laugh, it's scary enough for an uncertain paranoid poodle with all those people outside. I'll try to contact Obake later.:


01-18-2006, 20:06 PM UglyElmo2 to TosaInu.

I saw this later as I wasn't home yet. Not because I ran into some imposter or any other such scary thing.

Considering the fact I included Name Removed By Admin name and the CAV are overpowered comment, plus mentioned my infamous Jug O' Shine and provided a valid another, new, e-mail removed by Admin email addy, and since I am only asking that you give permissions for me to use this name UglyElmo2 and not my other two old ones, I must assume you do not really want me to participate here at the .org any further. I am not sure who you think I might be, or what proof I could add which would convince you, but I am not going to jump through hoops to satsify you. I remember when I was arguing with Name Removed By Admin over the CAV ARE TOO OVERPOWERED and mentioned something, sarcastically, to the effect "A few of the beta testers had their way and got what they wanted; You and Tootie took it upon themselves to send me PMs stating I was close to being banned.

BTW: Since when did you lose your sense of humor, not recognizing my "send naked pics" as one of my old lines to explaining the only way I could win a few matches?

Later Tosa. I tire of this.

:New data, but still nothing that hasn't gone through the entire ether 3 times. I do not know all actions by Tootee, when he was moderator here (a public secret, never told to anyone), but I never sent Elmo a PM to state he was close to getting banned. So, my corrupt paranoia only grows stronger, sigh Boy always got such big teeth?
Obake is still not online.:


01-18-2006, 20:14 https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=59893

:This is stage 2 and I'm even more worried now. A reply, ElmarkOFear would have been online earlier today? Still no Obake, I'm going to do something different and search for Obakes known to mee-mail. Then I can either wack the imposter into oblivion or restore Elmo.

Mail from TosaInu to Obake:

Hello Obake,

There's an UglyElmo2 account at org. That account is claiming it's ElmarkOFear.

I'm always cautious in these situations, the more when it involves accounts of well known people.

So I asked UglyElmo2 for some proof too. We 'know' each other for some time, so he could either bring up solid proof or tell me something. Not so, proof was either not what the database claims or too vague (I know about stories circulating, anyone can pick it up). I told him it was not enough/correct and upon his own proposal that Obakes word should do it.

Do you know Obake? Is UglyElmo2 ElmarkOFear, or is an imposter at work? https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=59893

Ja mata
Tosa

P.S. I'm in your MSN and ICQ contact list, reply to this or you can e-mail me at tosainu@totalwar.org and/or PM me at org.

:No reply yet for whatever reason. But there's great joy: ElmarkOFear just came online :


1-19-06 02:33 PM from TosaInu to ElmarkOFear:
I know, little paranoid critters like me should get to bed by 7.

Hello ElmarkOFear,

I was PM'ed by UglyElmo2 today. Is that one of your accounts?

:Now I'll be enlightened, be able to solve this with one stroke and then go to bed:


1-19-06 03:05
32 minutes is a long wait when dogtired.

The UglyElmo2 account was from home.

: little silly paranoid me was worried for nothing: it IS Elmo! Now I can simply pass the new details for both accounts to Elmo and/or ElmarkOFear and everything will be fine. What a joyful end of the day.. wait it's past 24.00.. what a joyful start of a new day!:

PM continues:

For some reason the "Remember Password" didn't work on it. My work PC still remembers the password though, otherwise I would never have been able to see this.

:I'm a naughty boy, still online, see ElmarkOFear online and thus I PM'ed ElmarkOFear. UglyElmo2 claimed to be Elmo who lost the pass for the old accounts. That could be true, so it's little use to PM ElmarkOFear. Dutch logic, never mind.

Anyway, yes, that's a plausibel possibility. But Elmo and anyone else, make sure others can not use that computer. I know, I know, a slim chance, but collegues pull legs too.:

PM continues:
[quote]I also am not sure why my email addy for the ElmarkOFear username did not match up, unless it was from this work PC: yet another, but old, e-mail removed by Admin If that is the case it should have been a big hint to you as to my authenticity, since everyone knows I work at Company name removed by paranoid Admin to prevent lawsuits as an Job function removed by paranoid Admin to prevent lawsuits.

:The logic about the hint fails me: ElmarkOFear would have the yet another, but old, e-mail removed by Admin e-mail, that should wake me up because it is known to everyone that Elmo works at Company name removed by paranoid Admin to prevent lawsuits and thus an account that doesn't have that Company name removed by paranoid Admin to prevent lawsuits e-mail attached, but claims to be Elmo is Elmo, as the real Elmo can proof he's Elmo because he has the right e-mail?

Ergo, anyone who claims to be me, should be given details to log into the TosaInu account as my account is linked to the e-mail I put there?
I need to sit down and think for a while about this advanced logic. But hey, it's ElmarkOFear, not an imposter, drinks on the house and lets all dance. Finish reading the PM and send a reply to coordinate the reset, don't waste any more time on things you can never understand Tosa!:

PM continues:

Please remove all of my accounts. I will not be participating here in the future.

:???:

PM continues

PS: There is a thread concerning the MP Wishlist. Once people have finished adding to it, please forward the information to Ritchie at CA. I offered to put one together for CA to be looked at for any future TW games.

:The topic says: 'To any moderator or admin: Please delete my "TW wishlist' thread in the MP section of this forum. I will no longer be able to work on it or reply with questions.' I'm lost.:


1-19-06 03:13 PM from TosaInu to ElmarkOFear.
8 minutes! It rocks to be dutch

Hello ElmarkOFear,

I've said that Obakes word would do it and e-mailed him using the contact I have.

Since you activated this now, I can reset e-mail and then you can either reset the password yourself or have me do it. I can also send details to UglyElmo2.

:No reply, no constructive private ones anyway, no e-mails, PM's or messages in any of my boxes.:


1-19-06 02:27
Going back in time.

Seems the work PC still remembers my ElmarkOFear name and password, but unfortunately I no longer have the old email addy attached to it and thus, cannot get the password sent to me.

:I understand that, several accounts before this had the same/similar problems. Some records that contained account details were even totally erased from the database. After some identification, which is context sensitive, all reported ouchies were quickly cured.:

What I find unfortunate is Tosa claiming I could be an imposter.

:It's not the first time an account is hi-jacked. Who's blamed when that happens?:

I even mentioned the "CAV ARE OVERPOWERED" discussion you and I were having and how I was sent a warning by both Tosa AND Tootie. :)

:No idea what Tootee did, yet if he sent anything that would negatively affect your account, I would notice. I never sent you a warning, though I have once used the warning system to force e-mail, PM and auto inclusion of the topic URL. No warning points, but there was a big fat disclaimer in the header about it not being a warning.:

Anyways, my retirement is still in effect. You may delete the ElmarkOFear, UglyElmo and UglyElmo2 accounts.

Its been fun, but time to move on.

interesting times in the mp community eh?

Very.

http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntotal...icID=917.topic

..Being unable to convince the admin of my identity, I have not been given the permissions to participate in the main .org forums using a new name: UglyElmo2. With that having been said, those of you who participate there please inform the .org patrons who have known me, that I will no longer be posting there. ..

:Bending the facts a little? Uglyelmo2, who was unidentified at that time, stated by PM that ElmarkOFear lost his passwords. Knowing how important accounts are, I offered assistance to recover.:

..I am not sure why I was given a hard time in registering the new name. I guess they weren't 100% sure it was me until now. ..

:Who gave you a hard time to register UglyElmo2?:

..I do not have time to go through my entire 5+ years of TW history and hassle my friends to send them a PM trying to convince them I am who I say I am. ..

Here is some proof for you: MTW CAV ARE OVERPOWERED! And you can tell Name Removed By AdminI said so! :)

:You lose your passwords and I have to bug people to recover it? Actually I did: I mailed Obake.:

The TW community isn't what it used to be:\

Never known a community to die whilst a game was still supposedly current, until now.

Kans.......

Nice to see two familiar names in here.

:Paint me black baby! I can walk the streets at night and noone will see me


Why the MP isn't what it used to be? Because of all this sillyness and making the silent/shy/weak people bleed for your own errors:



Now, I also got to learn something from all this, otherwise the horrible and unsighty ritual sacrifice would be all for nothing. Even someone as draconic as me would not be able to enjoy tea then.

In the unfortunate event that the reader has an active account here and in the even more unfortunate possibility something happens to your account (dropped from database, lost password, e-mail move etc.) and the reader contacts me about it, then he or she or it will be asked (in Private) to identify. I'm dutch and I will remain dutch. The bigger you are, so to speak, the more I will ask (not about credit card info or such things though). I completely understand now that this is not acceptable, but hey I'm dutch. To avoid any further sillyness: state here if you don't want the rescue interrogation.

PM used in this post is short for Private Message, not a time format.
The quotes indicate what's said in PM.
:: indicates dutch thoughts.

[Just A Girl]

I dont post on web pages that Post ip adresses under user names, for this simple reason, It allows hackers to see Individual peoples Ip adresses.

hacking some 1 is very easy these days,
And the only thing stoping some form doing it is the fact they dont know there victims Ip adress.

I would not advize the addition of ip adresses to posts.

[KukriKhan]

We do not, and will not display IP addresses. They are in the database for perusal by authorized Admins, but the privacy and security issues you guys allude to preclude their public publication.

And, for the record: I admit that it did take me just under 10 hours from the time UglyElmo2 originally requested assistance to the time I could verify account detail correlation.

By that time, the member had announced his 'retirement'. My excuse is: I had to transport my son to his enlistment flight to Georgia.

Sorry it took so long.

[solypsist]

when i returned from japan i had the same problem, forgotten p/w, etc. but luckily had a direct line to Tosa (who contacted me first!) and so was hooked up.

[t1master]

i think elmo's point is, that the days of infiltration are long gone and that perhaps the hyper level of paranoia and caution, which at one time may have been warranted are not now... all the players who were around and affected during the vicisious clan wars, and password stealing are no longer active in the game. and that the old community is soooo small and scattered as to make such a level of security a bit over the top...

do you still visit the ugli.org forums tosa? elmo posted there about his dilema as well..

[KukriKhan]

+

i think elmo's point is, that the days of infiltration are long gone and that perhaps the hyper level of paranoia and caution, which at one time may have been warranted are not now... all the players who were around and affected during the vicisious clan wars, and password stealing are no longer active in the game. and that the old community is soooo small and scattered as to make such a level of security a bit over the top...

You might be right - point taken.

But consider: what if it had gone the other way? If UglyElmo2 was not ElmarkOFear, but instead Henry-the-Hacker, intent on harm, a spoof, a joke, or worse?

We surrender the password ('cause hey! he quoted content on view here for years).

Henry-the-Hacker (alias Elmo) starts posting some racist crap. Gets warned. Posts some more bad stuff. Gets banned. ElmarkOFear can only protest using a different name; meanwhile his name in the .com, .net, ugli, etc community gets brought into question.

Henry has elmo's email info and whatever other info Elmo put in his profile, and hacks into the webmail version of his account. Curses out Grandma, tells the boss he quits, and changes his order for a spindle of blank CD's to an order for a 46" plasma TV, to a new address.

Extreme? Maybe. Does it happen every day? You bet. Plenty of stories here: http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/fraud/idtheft.html and elsewhere.

And we don't want to contribute to the odds of identity theft. So we're careful. The 50 or so other members I've reset passwords for have understood and appreciated our paranoid, hyper, over-the-top measures.

[Drisos]

http://imcintosh.com/ugly/modules.ph...d49aea76d1b6eb

His reaction over there will proove things.

[Mithrandir]

Why must there be so much drama over so many little things. I've got nothing against Elmo, sooner the opposite since we've had quite a few fun games in MTW (Glorfindel). However, as said above.

Besides even if Tosa was intent on giving you a hard time, why stop posting because one individual wants you too. Would you not do just as he'd like in that case?

Sigh. Come back Elmo, and to all :
Please stop being so dramatic :).

[Just A Girl]

Personaly I wouldnt stop posting here becous a few would prefer me not to.
"aslong as i think theres a reason for me to be here any way"
And given KukriKhan's reply as to why ID verification took so long. Prehaps elmo should now re-assesess his postition and oppinions regarding the situation.
"often helps to step back and re think matters 1ce in a while"

P.S
I think people Like drama....
And kurlikhan's post as to what harry the hacker may have gotten up to is Quite Dramatic lol.
But indeed it's quite possible.

[Quid]

I think the whole drama is very childish...nothing more to say about it.

Quid

[Adrian II]

Extreme? Maybe. Does it happen every day? You bet.

Exactly. Most Internet users are happily oblivious to the risks. They associate hacking with avatar games and do not realise what devastation a real hacker can do to your Internet accounts, your bank account, your professional reputation or your personal life. I understand that the episode mentioned has been tiresome and frustrating for all concerned, but I appreciate the .org security measures. And particularly TosaInu's 'Dutch' attitude of 'thinking twice before acting' and not asking 'Elmo' the kind of questions that would give away the game if 'Elmo' were a real hacker.

Security is a top-down issue. The TosaInus of this world make the Elmos more security aware and force them into judicious Internet behaviour. I know that sounds sanctimonious. Too bad.

[t1master]

i still fail to see how giving uglyelmo2 access to post in the rest of the forums leads to a security leak/risk and identity theft. that was really all that was being asked intially.

the welcome lobby, and restricted access to monitor new posters has driven away a fair few vets who did not remember their logins after numerous board revisions and the winding of time, absence from the game etc...

however,i understand the caution and steps that are taken, after all....

tis your board, and your responsibiliy to maintain security as you see fit, and obviuosly the org does a fantastic job.

[KukriKhan]

...the welcome lobby, and restricted access to monitor new posters has driven away a fair few vets who did not remember their logins after numerous board revisions and the winding of time, absence from the game etc...

Anyone, old or new, with login or password problems should PM Tosa or I, or - failing that - email jim@jimcee.com (that's me). As soon as correlation can be made, the member will be on their way to posting goodness.

Anyone who knows of someone with that or similar problems: let them know and/or contact me, for assistance.

[Papewaio]

Considering the not so distant past (Teragate) and a few X-rated porn hacks... I think be cautious is the thing to do.

Mr Hasty is being a tad too hasty methinks.

[TosaInu]

i still fail to see how giving uglyelmo2 access to post in the rest of the forums leads to a security leak/risk and identity theft. that was really all that was being asked intially.

Again, I know the importance of marbles. Stock prices vary of course. Why was I not told in the first reply to forget about the old accounts? The reply seemed like a follow up to continue restore?

the welcome lobby, and restricted access to monitor new posters has driven away a fair few vets who did not remember their logins after numerous board revisions and the winding of time, absence from the game etc...

I beg to differ.

UBB -> Ikonboard same password, since UBB stored them unencrypted in a flatfile. Same password, but now encrypted and stored safely.

Ikonboard -> VBulletin made a reset of the password necessary (software requirement), but a copy of the old Ikonboard was still there, including several FAT links to it, to help reset. The old password still worked there, so people who got stuck in the normal reset, could go there and ask me. The only reason that board is no more, is because the host disabled software to run it a year later. Several have been helped there, including vets and Elmo.

Vbulletin 3.03 -> 3.04 -> 3.05 -> -> 3.5.0 -> 3.51 -> 3.52 -> same password all the time.

So, only one reset, not numerous.

tis your board, and your responsibiliy to maintain security as you see fit, and obviuosly the org does a fantastic job.

I beg to differ again. When I joined, about 6 years ago, there was a friendly forum without any security, not even password protected accounts. Everything was happy and cool, until some/several decided it was 'fun' to impersonate others and post false and vulgar in their name. About every extra security step from that day on is the result from either some outsider or a 'giggling' community member: rules, moderators, more moderators, passwords, better passwords, EH, warning system to avoid overusing of bansticks, silent warnings to avoid cracking egos, swallowing potshots to save peace. BAH.

[t1master]

you are correct tosa... it would have been easier if elmo asked simply to give uglyelmo2 access to the mp forums.

swallowing potshots to save peace. BAH

tis your board, and your responsibiliy to maintain security as you see fit, and obviuosly the org does a fantastic job

i apologize if i sounded sarcastic and meant to offer no offence.

it is frustrating seeing the community that was once so vibrant and enjoyable slowly wind down.

[TosaInu]

it is frustrating seeing the community that was once so vibrant and enjoyable slowly wind down.

I agree.

i apologize if i sounded sarcastic and meant to offer no offence.

While the possible little bit of sarcasm didn't go unnoticed, it's not what made me say potshot. I understand what you mean, t1master, and you don't have to apologize for that.

My point is that it's not a fantastic job, nor something that's done to please me, but unfortunately a position we're forced into. The EH is not fantastic, but we're all, staff and members, doing our best to make it something positive: both for new members and the people who are around for a bit longer. Going there, I'm reminded about the blackchatting critics, frequently vulgar, insulting and away from the full story, we got nevertheless. Quite a contrast with how it was 6 years ago. I'm furious about that, not at you.

[Just A Girl]

Well i personaly think the staff do a good job here.
I have had my discrepancys with some of the staff.

Although. During these discrepancys I was known to push the boundrys of acceptable behaviour,
the staff watched me atke small libertys, and allowed them to a point.

I really do beleve the staff here make this a good if not great forum.
One which I should add.
im proud to be a partial member of.

Of what i know about the situation (Is not much) the situation was seemingly delt with in a fair and just manner.

A slight time delay seems to have occured,
And seems to have helped provoke a reaction.
(Delays are inevitable, but i also know how easy it is to jump to conclusions)

I would hope Elmo would reconsider his position on the matter seing as The reasons for the delay Have been anounced, and Are more than justyfiable.

IMHO It would be a shame to loose a valuable member ofer such a dicrepancy.

[TosaInu]

Hello,

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...9&postcount=11

Secondly: I mentioned the secret question as a way to keep this from happening again. You never acknowledged it was an acceptable solution, so I did not bother to pursue the issue. Unless I have missed a PM somewhere and accidentally deleted it. If you have this PM, please post it here for me to see. I will be more than happy to accept responsibility if it is my oversight.

06/12/06, 12:17 PM ElmarkOFear -> TosaInu

Needless to say, I finally remembered my old username and password. I am still very dissappointed I could in no way convince you of my identity. Anyways expect to see a bit of me in the coming months since XXX (edited for privacy by TosaInu) convinced me to purchase M2TW. It still isn't as good as MTW/VI or STW's MP, but it is slightly better than RTW and it appears XXX (edited for privacy by TosaInu) is truly interested in improving it.

Take care and remember: CAV ARE TOO POWERFUL! :) And stay away from my handgunners! By the way, this is me . . . honest.

PS: How about me giving you a couple words I can use to identify myself if this happens again before my XXX (edited for privacy by TosaInu) kicks in once again . . . The words will be: "XXX (edited for privacy by TosaInu)" My real name, which only a few close online friends know and whom I know wouldn't hijack my account. BTW this coming from my XXX@ PC (edited for privacy by TosaInu). "X" stands for XXX and XXX is my last name.

06/12/06, 20:52 PM TosaInu -> ElmarkOFear

Hello ElmarkOFear,

This problem pops up from time to time: losing mail and/or password and me questioning identity. I will see what can be done.

08/12/06, 00:30
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=74329

As for you doing anything to remedy the situation, I still do not remember my password and have no way of changing my email addy without it, so I STILL cannot retrieve the password in the future.

The reason I was gone for so long was I was building a new house and was living somewhere without access to my old PC. You never offered to change anything for me, even after acknowledging I was who I was.

1-19-06 03:05 PM ElmarkOFear -> TosaInu

Please remove all of my accounts. I will not be participating here in the future.

Anyways, my retirement is still in effect. You may delete the ElmarkOFear, UglyElmo and UglyElmo2 accounts.

Its been fun, but time to move on.

We had several PMs between us, and to anyone else, it would have been ample proof.

And that's the problem I had: proof to anyone else == known to anyone else != no identification.

I provided the letters in the password, (unfortunately, I cannot seem to get them in the right order or proper case),

Passwords are encrypted, it's thus not possible to check partial passwords.

had a few patrons post here for me,

Please check post one. When we had this PRIVATE discussion, you could log in again using another computer that had the details in cache (?). One PRIVATE PM would suffice to reset your password, e-mail and whatever else you want changed, since you're back already, quicker than getting a reply from Obake or me diving into other means to verify. Instead you went public with a rant and quit. And we still are talking about it 1.5 years later.

I finally remembered my password (through chance) and was able to login again.

Had I not somehow typed my password in correctly on this PC, I have no doubt I would STILL be unable to prove to you who I am

or

My work PC still remembers the password though, otherwise I would never have been able to see this.

or

Needless to say, I finally remembered my old username and password.

suggested you email Obake,

Which I did.

As for you doing anything to remedy the situation, I still do not remember my password and have no way of changing my email addy without it, so I STILL cannot retrieve the password in the future.

Did the reply that arrived in my PM box, months after mine was sent, mention anything about there still being issues with the account? I only saw

Needless to say, I finally remembered my old username and password.

You decided to take a vacation after having your password back. When you returned 6 months later you replied to my yet unanswered PM. Part of that was the more constructive bit about avoiding this in the future. In reaction to that a secret q/secret a was added. You were the reason to add this, yet you haven't taken the 2 minutes yet to set it. What do you suggest me to do when I receive a PM from Elmo4 account claiming to be you? Just give a new password?

Please advise ElmarkOFear? What do you want to be reset, what do you expect me to do?

[Caius]

Why this topic has came to life again?

[Warmaster Horus]

Recent discussion in the Tournament Field (M2 multiplayer subforum) in the "Memory Lane" Thread. It began with a discussion about UGLI, a multiplayer type of thing I think, and then became a kind of flame between ElMarkOFear and Tosa.