I'm just commenting on this:

Originally Posted by
Doug-Thompson
I stand corrected. Anyway, no dispute here: "Tanks" with arrows beat "tanks" without as a general purpose unit. No question.
In R: TW that doesn't seem to apply, Cata Archers are relatively weak facing a melee cata.
About them in BI, I seem to like Catas more even their, look below:
Code:
type clibinarii
dictionary clibinarii ; Clibinarii
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Medium_1
soldier clibinarii, 27, 0, 1
mount horse cataphract
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, power_charge
formation 1.2, 4, 2.4, 6, 4, square, wedge
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 7, 4, arrow, 100, 30, missile, archery, piercing, none, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr prec
stat_sec 6, 7, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, blunt, mace, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr ap
stat_pri_armour 20, 6, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 3, flesh
stat_heat 3
stat_ground 0, 1, -6, -1
stat_mental 5, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 50
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 2, 1430, 300, 150, 220, 1430
ownership sassanids
Code:
type cataphracts
dictionary cataphracts ; Cataphracts
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy_1
soldier cataphracts, 27, 0, 1
mount horse cataphract
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, power_charge
formation 1.2, 4, 2.4, 6, 4, square, wedge
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 6, 9, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 9, 5, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 18, 10, 4, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 4, flesh
stat_heat 3
stat_ground 0, 1, -6, -1
stat_mental 9, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 50
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 2, 1390, 337, 140, 210, 1390
ownership sassanids
Clearly, Clibinarii 7 damage arrows won't badly effect the 18 armour of Catas (And maybe the 4 points of shielding nto sure though). Moving on to the Secondary weapon, They have 6 damage points with AP + 7 charge bonus. While the Catas have 9 base melee sword damage + 9 from spear charge.
All that added to the fact that Catas armor in melee is 28, while Clibnarii's is 24. And still, the morale effect, Clibnariis' morale looks bad while Catas liik quit fine (5 to 9).
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