Possible CTD Source

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 01-21-2006, 19:37

Would it happen anytime any hellenic character won - even if he was AI?

**LordElrond** · 01-21-2006, 19:50

I believe it would crash for every hellenic character since it was missing in every hellenic nations code as I look through it (just as Mal said). Does the ai compete in the olympics? That could be a huge cause of CTDs if they did... everytime they won - CTD

**Malrubius** · 01-21-2006, 20:00

Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou

Would it happen anytime any hellenic character won - even if he was AI?

Yeah, I believe that would be the case. The Olympics look like the only place where I have a blank line following a "}" character. I learn something new about RTW CTDs every day, it seems!

Originally Posted by LordElrond

BTW: What coding language is this written in? I just started college going to major into computer science so this is all very interesting to me as I look through all the code you guys have written.

It's not a programming language, per se, but a special RTW scripting language. Pretty simple, but there's no compiler to check your errors and tell you something is invalid!

I believe I've learned more about good programming practices from this than when I was studying it in college!

**LordElrond** · 01-21-2006, 20:04

Eh, no compiler. Well looking through more and more of the 1000s of lines of code wrote for this, I have to say that most people probably don't realize how much time and effort it would actually take just to get all the code into working order... plus research done beforehand.

**Malrubius** · 01-22-2006, 18:55

The traits and ancillaries have really been a team effort, with input, descriptions, and decisions from many of our members. Even the coding itself has been done by several of us (at least half a dozen people)! We're kind of short-handed right now, so anybody interested in coding would be welcome to volunteer his services!

**NightStar** · 01-22-2006, 21:00

After bit of testing I find that this bug could be a major source of CTD's that I have been experiencing with KH and A. Seleukia.

I fixed the export_VnVs file and loaded up a game where I had an recurring CTD with KH and pressed end turn and voila.....no CTD. I have to test it further.

And yeah Malrubius.....the olympic events happen during the summer don't they?

**Malrubius** · 01-22-2006, 21:39

Yeah, the end of spring is when eligibility is determined (> 20% MP remaining, not besieging or under siege, high natural energy, etc). Then at the end of summer, the results are determined.

Yeah, and fixing that should be savegame compatible, too.

**NightStar** · 01-22-2006, 22:18

Ah I thought so, the end of summer which are the resaults. Most of the CTD's I have been experiencing are with KH and A. Seleaukia at the end of summer....and almost at no other time. Now I have to load up the saves where I have recurring CTD and check it out.