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    More:

    Australia Defence Association. Discussion on negotiations.

    UK: Black September. PLFP - the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine succeeds in getting the UK to negotiate and give in. Leila Khaled was a member of the PLFP. These are the results:


    Speaking to UK Confidential, Leila Khaled, now a middle-aged housewife, admitted that the PFLP was encouraged by the UK's capitulation to its demands.

    "It was a good step for us that we saw governments could be negotiated with. We could impose our demands.

    "The success in the tactics of the hijacking and imposing our demands and succeeding in having our demands implemented gave us the courage and the confidence to go ahead with our struggle."
    Background By John Deutch, former director of the CIA)


    It is irrational to think that negotiating with terrorists will somehow not lead to more terrorism.

    edit: I said the Heritage Foundation Article was a discussion, not evidence.
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    Default Re: We will not negotiate with terrorists

    Quote Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
    It is irrational to think that negotiating with terrorists will somehow not lead to more terrorism.
    Indeed. I can't believe this isn't common sense to most people. Someone commits an act of terrorism against you.... you negotiate and make concessions to terrorists. What's the message this sends? Terrorism is a viable means to an end.
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    Default Re: We will not negotiate with terrorists

    If you dont negotiate for the release of hostages then the hostages die, so it leaves very little choice....

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    What possible negotiating position do we even have?

    Osama: "We're going to destroy you all"

    Us: "No, we're going to destroy YOU all."

    Where do you go from there? Talk him down to only destroying a few major cities?

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    Default Re: We will not negotiate with terrorists

    Quote Originally Posted by Scurvy
    If you dont negotiate for the release of hostages then the hostages die, so it leaves very little choice....
    True.

    However, the larger question actually centers on who makes policy. Do you want your duly elected leaders to do so for your country, or would you prefer that their actions be dictated by the designs of some terrorist group.

    A state must be willing to write off the individuals in question rather than alter its policies in response to the threat -- however horrible that may be on an individual level. At its logical extreme, the state would be better served by locating the hostages and then wiping out the entire area (with minimum collateral damage), thus demonstrating that the lives of the individuals involved will never alter the state's policies.

    This is a bit harsh, so I'm willing to support the "we'll talk, but there will be no concessions" approach.

    As to the larger theme in this thread, I am all for negotiations -- right up to the [oint where I'm being treated with violence. At that point, we will negotiate only when my opponent has quit, preferably because they can no longer stand. People make the mistake of thinking that this concept is inappropriate because it's too simplistic for the socio-political context of the real world. Poppycock. Bullys cannot be negotiated with until they're down and bleeding. Once you have their attention by such means, then and only then will the discussion prove worthwhile. Otherwise, you're simply negotiating about how often you'd like to be kicked in the cojones, abused, and just how much of your own lunch money you get to keep.
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