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    i've been away from RTW ever since it became clear that the save-load bug was not going to be fixed anytime soon.

    but now that it supposedly IS fixed, i decided to come back and take a look, for old times' sake. alas, i can't say i'm all that encouraged...

    even now, i still see one problem after another being uncovered in the post-1.5/1.6 threads, newly introduced bugs, and/or issues which have apparently been existant since v1.0 (!!!!)

    plus, it looks like neither a 1.5/1.6-compatible RTR nor EB will be ready anytime soon, and given that 1.5/1.6 still needs work from CA (assuming they will even bring closure to this whole affair), that means yet more waiting.

    so, for those who knew me "back in the day", when i was a more active participant on these forums (both here and TWC) - can any of you honestly recommend that i invest my time and effort into RTW again?

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    Default Re: should i bother coming back?

    WHOOPS, mods, please move this to the colosseum/general discussion

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    Even though it's in the wrong forum, perhaps you should give EB a try. I'm sure it'll rock your world.

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    Don't do it, you might sucked in again by the pretty graphics if you download EB. But after a while you will start noticing the many flaws in the AI. And that was for me reason enough to finally abandon TW for good.

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    Default Re: should i bother coming back?

    i never stoped play rtw since i got it (first christmas it came out) because im 14 and kinda 14 like so when i see a "bug" i just think uh lets work around that to myself and i didn't notice a fraction of the bugs listed in the readmes for the patches so i would say play some more why not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke John
    Don't do it, you might sucked in again by the pretty graphics if you download EB. But after a while you will start noticing the many flaws in the AI. And that was for me reason enough to finally abandon TW for good.
    The AI is significantly better in EB...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
    The AI is significantly better in EB...
    This is highly unlikely considering that the AI is hardcoded and therefore not modable.
    You may however prefer the unit balance and campaign map perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke John
    Don't do it, you might sucked in again by the pretty graphics if you download EB. But after a while you will start noticing the many flaws in the AI. And that was for me reason enough to finally abandon TW for good.
    lol...Duke, you tried the beta?..or are you basing that judgement on the bits of EB you saw months ago whilst an EB member... for those couple of minutes.

    If you haven't already..give it a whirl.

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    Default Re: should i bother coming back?

    well, it looks like i should still wait until the mods have migrated to 1.5/6 or later before making a more conclusive judgement. until then, i suppose i'll try to retain interest and also hope that CA does indeed continue to better support its product.

    in the meantime, there's always civ4...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSYCHO V
    lol...Duke, you tried the beta?..or are you basing that judgement on the bits of EB you saw months ago whilst an EB member... for those couple of minutes.
    If only I were a member for more than just a few minutes...


    But no, I did not try the current beta since in my opinion no matter how good R:TW can look its AI will always spoil the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jedispongee
    perhaps you should give EB a try. I'm sure it'll rock your world.
    yeah, but not if i have to go back to 1.2 and have to deal with the save-load bug again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tai4ji2x
    i've been away from RTW ever since it became clear that the save-load bug was not going to be fixed anytime soon.

    but now that it supposedly IS fixed, i decided to come back and take a look, for old times' sake. alas, i can't say i'm all that encouraged...

    even now, i still see one problem after another being uncovered in the post-1.5/1.6 threads, newly introduced bugs, and/or issues which have apparently been existant since v1.0 (!!!!)
    R:TW 1.5 is still the same game, but works a lot better. The battle and strategic A.I. have been improved and the battles are finally balanced: no more light-cavalry rushes. There are indeed two bugs (a memory leak and a pila-cheat), but all other gameplay-marring bugs have been sorted out. However, battle A.I. is still not quite on par with M:TW and the campaign is rather easy.

    I don't have BI, but I am told it is better, if still not quite as good as M:TW.

    As for me, I am playing the occasional game with EB and waiting until it is ported to 1.5. If they can get 1.2 to be so interesting, EB 1.5 must be really a blast.
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    I wondered that also, till I got BI.

    It is now a MUCH better game. Still some problems, but now at least playable.

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    Default Re: should i bother coming back?

    Quote Originally Posted by tai4ji2x
    i've been away from RTW ever since it became clear that the save-load bug was not going to be fixed anytime soon.

    but now that it supposedly IS fixed, i decided to come back and take a look, for old times' sake. alas, i can't say i'm all that encouraged...

    even now, i still see one problem after another being uncovered in the post-1.5/1.6 threads, newly introduced bugs, and/or issues which have apparently been existant since v1.0 (!!!!)

    plus, it looks like neither a 1.5/1.6-compatible RTR nor EB will be ready anytime soon, and given that 1.5/1.6 still needs work from CA (assuming they will even bring closure to this whole affair), that means yet more waiting.

    so, for those who knew me "back in the day", when i was a more active participant on these forums (both here and TWC) - can any of you honestly recommend that i invest my time and effort into RTW again?
    Nicely cut and pasted from TWCenter.

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    Default Re: should i bother coming back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slug For A Butt
    Nicely cut and pasted from TWCenter.
    um... so what?

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