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[Lord Armbandit]

I've got no problem with wild highland clansmen, as long as they add a bit of fun and aren't (too) ridiculous. You can always mod individual units out (so far in the series anyway) or so I understand, if they bother you.

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

You can always mod individual units out (so far in the series anyway) or so I understand, if they bother you.

That's why I started this thread about modding it.

[Zenith Darksea]

Yes, I too am very worried about Scotland. For instance, it says in the press release that you'll start off with England 'breathing down your neck'. This is rubbish. In 1080 England and Scotland were very much at peace and on good terms.

[VikingHorde]

I might make a MTW2 mod with 30 factions, if there is only 21 factions in the game. It all depends on how modable MTW2 is, so it might not be possible to add any more factions . We will see once the game comes out

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

Yes, I too am very worried about Scotland. For instance, it says in the press release that you'll start off with England 'breathing down your neck'. This is rubbish. In 1080 England and Scotland were very much at peace and on good terms.

yeah, it sounds pretty dodgy for Scotland at the moment.

[zakalwe]

''Yes, I too am very worried about Scotland. For instance, it says in the press release that you'll start off with England 'breathing down your neck'. This is rubbish. In 1080 England and Scotland were very much at peace and on good terms.''

Come on ... CA has to take so much flak.

England was certainly breathing down Scotland's neck.

Malcolm staged 5 major raids into Northumbria during his reign - in 1061, 1070, 1079, 1091 and 1093.

In retaliation, in 1072 William took a great army with an accompanying fleet up through Lothian into Fife. At Abernethy he forced Malcolm into paying homage to him and giving his son as hostage.

In 1079, Malcolm once again raided into England. In 1080 (NOTE - the year the game starts) William's son, Robert, struck back into Scotland forcing a renewal of the Abernethy terms at Falkirk and arranging more hostages.) Later that year the English began work on a new castle on the Tyne.



Sooooo Scotland and England were 'on good terms' and 'very much at peace'?

It is 'rubbish' to say that England would be breathing down your neck as Scotland?


Please let's at least see what CA do first before unfairly tearing into them

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

I got the impression that Malcolm III kept starting it so it would be more like Scotland breathing down England's neck.

Edit: so assuming the game starts at the beginning of 1080 then the English faction would have the choice to retaliate or not so it's not quite starting with England breathing down Scotland's neck, but with the option of doing so.

Edit: I raised the issues for potential modding because 1. if certain features do not turn out how I like them I want to see who else may want to alter them and 2. because I know that the TW team does actually listen, remember how terrible and Conan The Destroyer-like the RTW barbarian factions looked until people raised the issue and the TW team fixed it (to a certain extent anyway). So not a gratuitous be mean at the new game before we even see it thread.

[zakalwe]

William with his highly militarised force had strolled right into the very heart of the Scottish kingdom all the way to Abernethy only 8 years earlier. It was only because Malcolm submitted to him that battle wasn't forced. Scotland spent the next 600 years with England breathing down its neck. The only threat to Scotland's existence that came to the nation for this period came from England (i personally won't count the Norse who by this period weren't a threat to the existence of the nation). Even today we feel that breath from the south on our necks in Scotland.

Now we can argue about the semantics of what 'breathing down the neck' might mean, but it's a bit pointless. England is going to be sitting at the start of the game with large forces near the Scottish border. I don't think that it's fair to have a go at CA over this one comment. Whether by taking direct aggressive action, preparing defences or using diplomacy, the game as the Scottish faction is going to be dictated in the early stages by the relationship with England.

eta - don't get me wrong. I have worries over the depiction of the Scottish army. It must be a very nice easy and tempting way to go - producing a 'barbarian'-type army of tartaned savages. Fingers crossed though.