Doubts about EB.

**Steppe Merc** · 01-22-2006, 17:53

There are revolts, rogue military units and brigands very often not only in the ancient world, but through out history. Just because most of them failed horribely didn't mean they didn't happen...

**Reenk Roink** · 01-22-2006, 18:35

Playing a bit of 1.5 vanilla, I sorta took a liking to those rebels, they weren't pesky anymore, but rather realistic, and great fun to put to the sword

with my captains (who sometimes became good young men for the family

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**Dayve** · 01-22-2006, 19:43

Realistic? What's realistic about one unit of rorari appearing between 3 cities that have happy green faces and blocking trade? Why revolt with a unit of rorari? Why would rorari revolt? Slaves who revolted i doubt would have little more than a wooden shield and a cheap nasty spear... And the Romans wouldn't say a unit of rorari have revolted outside cannae would they? Because they wouldn't be called rorari... The rebels that popup in this game should just be a special unit only available to them with a simple name like 'rebel spearmen'... Just men armed with a cheap spear and shield, not rorari like what appears on the Italian peninsula...

I know it isn't in EB's power to change this, but something does need to be done... Instead of these ridiculous 1 unit rebel 'armies' popping up... Why can't a large-ish army just popup occasionally and wreak havoc?

**Steppe Merc** · 01-22-2006, 19:59

Well perhaps in Romes case that would be true. But in other places, there was often in fighting between nobles, like in Parthia, where there would be fully equipped cataphracts and horse archers. Of course those would be different from the nomads that raid the edges of their terrotory or the bandits that prey on cavarans.

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 01-23-2006, 00:02

Keep in mind some of these 'rebels' have to also represent a lot of varied things - from a unit or two brigands on the roads somewhere to invading armies from other eleutheroi provinces to local uprisings with different claimants to power/thrones. There is a lot of variation that has to be compacted into one way of representing them in the game.

**jedispongee** · 01-23-2006, 02:04

I just have to say, a brigand containing 6+ units Gestastae is madness.

**Dayve** · 01-23-2006, 02:17

It is... And you know what? I've almost had that happen... I've had 4... And when your best units are mostly lugoe and clydabbre with one city that can produce decent swordsmen and you can't afford to recruit any leuce epos... It REALLY does suck the big one...