Doubts about EB.

[Steppe Merc]

Well perhaps in Romes case that would be true. But in other places, there was often in fighting between nobles, like in Parthia, where there would be fully equipped cataphracts and horse archers. Of course those would be different from the nomads that raid the edges of their terrotory or the bandits that prey on cavarans.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Keep in mind some of these 'rebels' have to also represent a lot of varied things - from a unit or two brigands on the roads somewhere to invading armies from other eleutheroi provinces to local uprisings with different claimants to power/thrones. There is a lot of variation that has to be compacted into one way of representing them in the game.

[jedispongee]

I just have to say, a brigand containing 6+ units Gestastae is madness.

[Dayve]

It is... And you know what? I've almost had that happen... I've had 4... And when your best units are mostly lugoe and clydabbre with one city that can produce decent swordsmen and you can't afford to recruit any leuce epos... It REALLY does suck the big one...

[LordElrond]

I believe that the occurence of gesatae in rebel armies is being toned down a bit in the patch. I also think their unit sizes are being reduced.

[Chester]

I've had rebels stand around in my lands for 20+ turns. I don't think they'll ever attack me. I don't have a problem with them. My Baktria campaign saw two uprisings in my indian provinces. I quickly took the cities back however, and kept garrisons in them afterwards. It drew my armies from the selucid front and proved to be a cool obsticale. I needed to move my armies, separate them, and bring them back to battle the Selucid empire.

[PSYCHO V]

I believe that the occurence of gesatae in rebel armies is being toned down a bit in the patch. I also think their unit sizes are being reduced.

Yup ... and still many many new units to put in,

[QwertyMIDX]

In the next build the gesatae will have 60 men per unit rather than 80 as to be more in line with most elites.