Aztecs

[nokhor]

i've seen mention of the aztecs in custom battle and mulitplayer from official looking sources, but nothing about them in regular campaign play, i find it difficult to believe that CA will make a huge map extending from the americas to europe. i find it much more likely that the aztecs will be a mini game, similar to the way that the italian peninsula was a mini game in the tutorial of RTW. the main difference being that the aztec mini game would take place after you win on the european map. there would be some info about 'after harrowing months at sea and many storms, your depleted forces land on a new continent.' and the game would take say 10% of your forces from the end of the europe map and put them on the new unexplored map, with you in control of one fort/city.

[The Darkhorn]

Yeah, I doubt they'll be SP playable. The game ends in 1530....wasn't America discovered in 1492? Yes. I don't remember when Mexico itself was discovered. Seems like an awfully short time for a playable faction to be active. That is unless it is a mini campaign as suggested.

[lancelot]

Quite possible, although Im not really sure what is meant by all this...

Prelude to an expansion pack possibly? I mean, I doubt they would do viking invasion II would they?

Personally if the map is expanding I felt it should have strayed east a bit...see what those guys were up to!

[Mikeus Caesar]

No, i imagine it would be a side-campaign to your main campaign. It would do as Nokhor suggested, with a notice notifying you of many harrowing months at sea and the discovery of a new world, then take 10% of your forces and give you the option of switching to and fro from the main Euro campaign to the America's, where many other European nations have established towns there.

Or, to make the Aztecs interesting in SP, they'll have many other tribes to fight, like Red Indians and Mayas.

[elbasto]

Actually the Aztec's capital city Tenochitlan had a larger population than any other European city when it was "discovered" by the Spanish.

They (and all the Amerindian empires) were so easily conquered for a series of factors:

a) The Spaniards allied themselves with ethnic minorities which weren't happy at all with their master's rule.

b) The Amerindian kingdoms were politically unstable and in some cases they were fighting a civil war when the Spaniards arrive.

c) They regarded the Europeans as demigods in some cases, as they matched the description of some of their prophecies (were taller, in some cases they had blue eyes and were blond and had body hair, all of which couldn't be found in the American continent).

d) The Spaniards had three secret weapons:
1- Horses: This weren't found in the new world.
2- Gunpowder: Even though at the time it wasn't that much useful.
3- Spanish Iron: remember MTW? Golden Armor and Golden Weapons? If you can beat the crap out of any nation in MTW with those upgrades what makes you think that a technically less developed nation could stand against it? In many cases the Amerindian's weapons were ineffective against the European armor, they had to aim to their legs and so, the most famous (or infamous) weapons they had were either maces or poisonous darts, because those were their only effective weapons.

e) Let's give Spain a little of credit here, at the time they were the strongest nation in Europe, the had control over the low countries, parts of Italy, Germany, North West Africa and Spain itself. So the aborigens weren't fighting a minor power, they were fighting against "The Man".

So if you want to play with the Aztecs be ready to:
a) Don't have access to cavalry of any sort.
b) Have a great deal of dissent.
c) Defend against top notch troops but in low quantities.



But until then, the Aztec's player main concern would be unrest and minor tribes I guess...

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

If the Aztecs are a faction with Central and South America apparently in the game surely another Indian faction must be in the game either the Incas or maybe the Mayans. You can't have all that land mass and just one faction.

But as we know nothing really yet it is too early to speculate

[doc_bean]

I don't think they will be playable in SP, you can probably achieve extra 'glory' and a lot of extra cash if you are the first to discover the Americas and the Aztecs. Maybe it will count towards GA points ?

[Leonin Khan]

If the Aztecs are a faction with Central and South America apparently in the game surely another Indian faction must be in the game either the Incas or maybe the Mayans. You can't have all that land mass and just one faction.

But as we know nothing really yet it is too early to speculate

yeah i though that too...

where are the Carib, the mayans and the inca's...i dunno how big the region is but i doubt it will cover only aztec ground