The Factions

**Helgi** · 01-24-2006, 19:20

Originally Posted by Vlad The Impaler

since when is Hungary orthodox?

A Valid & Good Question, Vlad; concidering both sides of my wife's family are from Budapest and neither are Orthodox and as far as I know and think I knew, Hungary was first pagan and then Catholic.

**Meneldil** · 01-24-2006, 22:33

Well, I still can't figure why they stick with such a low number of faction. I'd so enjoy playing with all the EUII-like crappy one province faction. I do not mean making 500 factions with each their own units, but hell, they could put 4 irish factions, about a dozen muslim ones, 6 major french houses, and so on.
Plus, representing the HYW with 'France' and 'England' is actually quite crappy.

**Trajanus** · 01-26-2006, 09:44

Update:

They are lookig to knock the faction number up to 30 if possible. So even more choice for us!

**ShadesWolf** · 01-26-2006, 20:38

Originally Posted by Meneldil

Plus, representing the HYW with 'France' and 'England' is actually quite crappy.

totally agreed...

A large amount of factions would be required to make it work historically.

**RedCoat** · 04-02-2006, 17:57

I hope that the Eastern European factions get some decent, realistic units. The most embarrasing unit, in my mind, was the Hungarian Szekely. They're an ethnic group! Not a 'unit'.

**Ultras DVSC** · 04-02-2006, 19:49

Originally Posted by RedCoat

I hope that the Eastern European factions get some decent, realistic units. The most embarrasing unit, in my mind, was the Hungarian Szekely. They're an ethnic group! Not a 'unit'.

Agree, but Székelys used really this "light cavalry fighting-style" like all the ancient Magyar tribes and eastern nomadic people. After the settling emerged some new unit because the western effect (eg. royal heavy cavalry), but these tribes conserved their original style and always fought in the first line of the Hungarian army with the Cumans, Yazigs and Pechenegs. So imho Székelys are ok maybe under the name Székely Horse Archers.

**bozkirsovalyesi** · 04-02-2006, 20:16

cumans absolutely...

east europe balance component.

russia-bizantyum-volga bulgaria-georgia-hungary-mongols...

balance component

**Barbarossa1221** · 04-02-2006, 20:27

Playing the scots will be really hard I mean they only get like 1 province. Maybe they carved the map up more so scotland it like 2 provinces...
I cant wait to play as the aztecs!

**RedCoat** · 04-02-2006, 22:33

Originally Posted by Ultras DVSC

Agree, but Székelys used really this "light cavalry fighting-style" like all the ancient Magyar tribes and eastern nomadic people. After the settling emerged some new unit because the western effect (eg. royal heavy cavalry), but these tribes conserved their original style and always fought in the first line of the Hungarian army with the Cumans, Yazigs and Pechenegs. So imho Székelys are ok maybe under the name Székely Horse Archers.

Szép, I suppose this is an accurate interpretation. The name should definitely be changed, and I think the faction as a whole should have been stronger. Hungary was the most powerful Eastern European Kingdom throughout much of the middle ages. We need more unique units for Poland and Hungary at the end of the day.

**bretwalda** · 04-04-2006, 19:27

Originally Posted by RedCoat

Szép, I suppose this is an accurate interpretation. The name should definitely be changed, and I think the faction as a whole should have been stronger. Hungary was the most powerful Eastern European Kingdom throughout much of the middle ages. We need more unique units for Poland and Hungary at the end of the day.

I second to that. Probably fast light cavalry and medium cavalry needed and also some unique heavy foot troops. Maybe also a unit that would represent the heavy terrain of Hungary where rivers, swamps and bridges always played big role.