France threatens with nuclear weapons!!!

[Devastatin Dave]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060119/...ms_france_dc_2
Well, is there any outrage about this or because its not the US this is peachy to everyone?

[Ser Clegane]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060119/...ms_france_dc_2
Well, is there any outrage about this or because its not the US this is peachy to everyone?

Read this a couple of hours ago - don't know what got into him, his statements remind me a bit of messageboard-cowboys who frequently want to "turn the Middle East into glass" as a response to terrorist attacks.

Also, I do not quite understand the logic behind not being willing to use nukes in military conflicts but considering it to be an adequate response to terrorist attacks.

Did he drink to much coffee this morning?

[doc_bean]

In a poll during the Kosovo war most French were found in favor of nuking the whole region and get it over with.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Seems pretty sensible to me.

After all, paying for a weapons program that you then declare will never be used saved in the event of your own extirpation is a little silly.

Good Lord, I just said something positive about a French government policy!

[Adrian II]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060119/...ms_france_dc_2
Well, is there any outrage about this or because its not the US this is peachy to everyone?

Nope, no outrage here, because this is France and that is peachy to me. If it were the U.S. I would revert to my Pavlov reflex and start decrying your nation as the crux of evil, the abode of everything decadent, corrupt and villanous on earth, the land of the vain and the home of slavery. But it isn't. So I won't. Not this time round.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Nope, no outrage here, because this is France and that is peachy to me. If it were the U.S. I would revert to my Pavlov reflex and start decrying your nation as the crux of evil, the abode of everything decadent, corrupt and villanous on earth, the land of the vain and the home of slavery. But it isn't. So I won't. Not this time round.

You may be politically around the bend Adrian, but "damn my eyes" if I don't revel in your sense of humor.

[Fragony]

He didn't specifically name nukes. It could be conventional, 'or something else'. They may just flood them with chicks with hairy armpits. But even the french aren't that cruel.

[Vladimir]

To those of you who are supporting nuclear action: Remember the hamsters.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=59933

[English assassin]

You should be happy Dave, there IS a western country with a worse leader than yours...

They may just flood them with chicks with hairy armpits.

You are thinking of Germany.

[Vladimir]

You should be happy Dave, there IS a western country with a worse leader than yours...

Germany?

[Fragony]

You are thinking of Germany.

Nah, England. (dear) god shave the queen.

[Devastatin Dave]

There is a major problem with this. If Chirac is suggesting a nuke for Iran, you wouldn't just be vaporizing the government there. There are a lot, if not the majority of Iranians that do not have the same beliefs and radical tendencies of the government that governs them. That's a lot of innocent deaths. When the US dropped the bomb on Japan, the population, as a majority, worshipped the Emperor and would fight to the death. Making statements like this does not help the situation. Threatening military action is one thing, but i believe making a statement that even hints to a nuke attack will only hasten Iran to build up a nuclear arsonal. Nukes cannot be an option.

[Vladimir]

I hate to say it but someone needs to drop some 7* spys on Iran. The biggest problem with that is that you don't know what you'll get as a result. But I'd rather do it BEFORE they have nukes.

[Devastatin Dave]

"Our country's security and its independence have their price," Chirac said.

LOL, I know this reminds the Euros of someone very near and dear to them. I guess Karl Rove is Chirac's brain as well!!!

[Ser Clegane]

I guess Karl Rove is Chirac's brain as well!!!

So what did the CIA do with the real Chirac?

[Devastatin Dave]

So what did the CIA do with the real Chirac?

Brainwashed him and made him John Kerry's love slave.

[Watchman]

Mailed him a few self-help books for politicians who've painted themselves into corners, probably (I understand Chirac's domestic popularity... could be better). The same ones Bush reads. You know, swagger, talk tough, scowl in photos...

[master of the puppets]

ok...so according to us at the org, the following world leaders suck.

blair of the united kingdom
george bush of USA
chirac of france
abdublahblahblah of iran
leader of germany
and that nuts midget in north korea
...wow, i wonder how many more we can slap on the great list.

[el_slapper]

Damn he's really too old now

[Adrian II]

Damn he's really too old now

What is wrong with his statement anyway? 'You blast us, we blast you just as bad, or worse.' Sounds like good old retaliation to me. He also indicates that France's nuclear strategy has been redirected to reflect other than old-fashioned, major military threats to the nation.

Looks like common sense to me. Maybe that's what some posters are lacking?...

[Vladimir]

ok...so according to us at the org, the following world leaders suck.

blair of the united kingdom
george bush of USA
chirac of france
abdublahblahblah of iran
leader of germany
and that nuts midget in north korea
...wow, i wonder how many more we can slap on the great list.

It seems like the western world is getting a raw deal. I'd like to nominate sub Saharan Africa.

[Ser Clegane]

Looks like common sense to me. Maybe that's what some posters are lacking?...

I don't think that it would have been common sense if the US had considered to drop a nuke on Afghanistan as a means of retaliation for 9/11, neither do I think that it would be common sense if Israel dropped a nuke on Palestine (or even threatened to do so) as a means of retaliation for the latest bombing in Tel Aviv.
Maybe some posters define "common sense" in a different way than others

EDIT: Would it also be common sense had Chirac threatened to use white phosphorous as a means of retaliation?

[English assassin]

AII's been hanging out with his mates in the CIA again...

BTW does the Org think Merckel sucks? Surely its too soon to tell, or has she got a domestic sucking record that I don't know about?

[Devastatin Dave]

What is wrong with his statement anyway? 'You blast us, we blast you just as bad, or worse.' Sounds like good old retaliation to me. He also indicates that France's nuclear strategy has been redirected to reflect other than old-fashioned, major military threats to the nation.

Looks like common sense to me. Maybe that's what some posters are lacking?...

Using nukes is common sense. Interesting.

[Ja'chyra]

I don't see the problem, what's a nuclear deterrant for if not to deter?

[English assassin]

I don't see the problem, what's a nuclear deterrant for if not to deter?

Job creation.

[Devastatin Dave]

LOL, if Bush said that he would be deploying the Boy Scouts with pop guns against Iran you guys would be totally freaking out and call ing him a butcher and a war monger. Chirac is talking about vaporizing an entire region of the world and its common sense. Boy, if that's not putting your prejudice and political bias as your guide instead of reasonable justification, I don't know what is. Hypocricy at its finest. Thanks for sharing.

[Watchman]

The French have the Dijon mustard and an attitude, so they get away with it. Everyone just kinda sighs, rolls their eyes, shrugs, and winks at each other: "those wacky French..." The Americans just have bad TV shows and junk food.

This, kids, is how prestige works in practice. And no, it's not even remotely fair.

[master of the puppets]

i see it as a pure deterent, there basicly putting the shotgun to the terrorists and saying "you wanna hit me...well you don't got the balls, do ya...punk" but i doubt they'd actually pull the trigger. probably just idle threats to hope they don't get what every other country has gotten so far.

[Mikeus Caesar]

Sometime in the near future....

Newscaster: Hello, today is 23rd August 2006, and here are the main news headlines. Paris today suffered the perils of international terrorism as terrorists invaded a small coffee shop and called the owners 'stinky poo poo head christian zealots'. The terrorists were arrested for disturbing the peace, and may possibly be Al Qaeda operatives.

Newscaster: Hello, today is 24th August 2006, and here are the main news headlines. Paris today blew a small chunk of the country Madeupistan into space after yesterday's terrible attacks on the capital. Hundreds of thousands of people are dead, with many more injured. Here is what the French President said shortly afterwards. 'They offended our honour and caused the people much suffering. The owners of that coffee shop will be disturbed for life!' French police later made an announcement that the Al Qaeda operatives who commited the atrocities were nothing more than a pair of local drunks wearing brown make-up.