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    Default Re: Let's Settle this: Pro-GWoT Imperialist or No? Anti-GWoT Coward or No? Read text 1st

    ya, I read the whole report
    Well it might be a good idea if you actually remembered what you had read then Vlad .
    So to follow on from your example that was false , you now use another false example , as what you claim is not stated at all .
    It links "Shakir" to Al-Qaida and links "Shakir"to the Feedayeen which was under Uday ,BUT it is also shown that there is no certainty that "Shakir" who is linked to Al-Qaida and "Shakir" who is linked to the Fedayeen are even the same person .
    Then you come out with the Palestinian bit , well guess what , Iraq and Isreal are still at war , just as they have been since the creation of Isreal . So is that terrorism or support for your allies in an international conflict that is recognised by both the Iraqi and Israeli governments ?
    So , pray tell Vladimir , how many terrorist organisations does your State department still claim were linked to Saddams regime ?
    Al-qaida ain't one of them is it ?
    Though it does list one group that has been inactive for many years
    And just for novelty value another of those listed is now one of your "allies" and members of your government are trying to reopen its American offices for fundraising to support its little terrorist enterprise .
    Yay war on terror ...but who are the terrorists and when are they no longer nasty terrorists but good friendly freedom fighters that must be allowed to raise funds in the States?

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    Default Re: Let's Settle this: Pro-GWoT Imperialist or No? Anti-GWoT Coward or No? Read text 1st

    From the right-wing fundamentalists at PBS:

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/khodada.html

    What kind of training went on, and who was being trained?

    Training is majorly on terrorism. They would be trained on assassinations, kidnapping, hijacking of airplanes, hijacking of buses, public buses, hijacking of trains and all other kinds of operations related to terrorism.
    There's more. There's also new stuff in The Weekly standard too but you probably close your mind to news sources that don't match your ideology.


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    Default Re: Let's Settle this: Pro-GWoT Imperialist or No? Anti-GWoT Coward or No? Read text 1st

    You know what is ironic about the "war on terrorism"?

    That left wingers support non-intervention against all of those dictatorial right-wing regimes all over the world, and that right-wingers support overthrowing them to replace them with even puppet, but more democratic regimes.

    And that you fight a war to protect freedom, and give up freedom to do it.

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    Default Re: Let's Settle this: Pro-GWoT Imperialist or No? Anti-GWoT Coward or No? Read text 1st

    Vladimir , do you even bother to read the links you post ?
    Did you not notice the disclaimer
    [Editor's Note, November 2005: More than two years after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, there has been no verification of Khodada's account of the activities at Salman Pak. In fact, U.S. officials have now concluded that Salman Pak was most likely used to train Iraqi counter-terrorism units in anti-hijacking techniques. It should also be noted that he and other defectors interviewed for this report were brought to FRONTLINE's attention by the Iraqi National Congress (INC), a dissident organization that was working to overthrow Saddam Hussein. Since the original broadcast, Khodada has not publicly addressed questions that have been raised about his account of activities at Salman Pak.]




    you post an interview from someone whose group was working for the Iranians

    There's more. There's also new stuff in The Weekly standard too but you probably close your mind to news sources that don't match your ideology.
    I am sure you can find plenty more like that , but since you seem to be quite a rabid supporter of your government , could you possibly find anything from your government that still tries to back up those claims you post .
    And why can you not find those claims still being made by your government ?
    Because they found out on investigation that mainly it was a load of bollox

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