Who govern's a province?

[Panzermeyer]

Greetings all,

New here to the forum, just got MTW a few days back and after a few driver bugs got it up and running. Love the game. Though I like the improvements in RTW better I think I like MTW better overall. Maybe it is just the time peroid.

Well either way, I have a question about titles and such.

I know with some of the titles I can give generals it can make them really good combat generals. So if I move them off the province they got their title from, will some one else govern the province?

Basically I am curious whose accum calculates the bonuses to the provinces.

Cause I also notice princes cannot be given titles, so does that mean they cannot govern a province? Same for the king?? Seems like a waste, some of these are pretty good.

So if I give a general a title, and then have him run off to fight a war, can I leave a prince behind who will govern the province and give it the bonus of his accum?? Or leave another general behind??

Thanks in advance


Panzermeyer

[Goofball]

Greetings all,

New here to the forum, just got MTW a few days back and after a few driver bugs got it up and running. Love the game. Though I like the improvements in RTW better I think I like MTW better overall. Maybe it is just the time peroid.

Well either way, I have a question about titles and such.

I know with some of the titles I can give generals it can make them really good combat generals. So if I move them off the province they got their title from, will some one else govern the province?

Welcome to the Org, Panzermeyer.

No, if you move the governor out of the province, he is still the governor. But if he is always out of his province, he may start picking up vices like "absentee landlord."

Basically I am curious whose accum calculates the bonuses to the provinces.

Cause I also notice princes cannot be given titles, so does that mean they cannot govern a province? Same for the king?? Seems like a waste, some of these are pretty good.

Nope, princes/kings cannot be made governors. On the upside, IIRC, your King's acumen bonus applies to the income for his entire kingdom.

So if I give a general a title, and then have him run off to fight a war, can I leave a prince behind who will govern the province and give it the bonus of his accum?? Or leave another general behind??

Nope. As above, the General you assign as governor is always the governor, no matter where he is.

Hope this helps.

[Papewaio]

Since Kings effect what your Princes stats will be it is a good idea to have your fighting Generals be your Princes.

The only other ones you should use for combat are the special characters that turn up. This means that when choosing Governers it is good to go for purely accumen except for the command enhancing provinces. Also govs with extra stars should be used... which means they are more likely to be killed... not a good thing for most princes.

With princes it is a good idea to compare all the stats for them. If you have 7 Princes it is a good idea to send your worst two into battle after battle. You don't have to kill them, just get them more decent... if they do die, well hopefully you get something useful out of them in the meantime. In general you will not get heirs above a certain number, so it is better to have 5 good ones rather then 7 mediocre ones.

A heir that is weak will lead to a weaker kingdom. Accumen is a useful trait to have high, but it is more difficult to achieve then getting high stars... battles are easy, bank accounts are difficult.

[econ21]

I generally look for a general with 4 acumen or higher to be a governor of a province. They are in short supply originally, so allocate them first to the provinces with the highest farming income (IIRC, they don't raise mine income - I am not sure about trade income). But gradually, as you recruit more units, you will get enough high acumen generals.

As Papewaio implies, if the province gives a command star, then forget about money and give it to your best general (often the historical ones).

The other thing to factor in is your general's loyalty. If it is low, giving them a good province may make the difference between peace and civil war. But this probably only matters if the general in question will control an army. If they have high acumen but are very disloyal, you could always give them a title and stack them with a Prince or King to keep them in line.

I rather enjoy the first turn of the HRE early campaign, when allocating provinces to generals is effectively like a mini-game itself as you have to weigh all the above factors.

One other thing - getting your king to fight (and win) seems the key to breeding good Princes (and getting the influence necessary to raise your general's loyalty). It's best to play your king like Richard I of England, not his brother John.

[Panzermeyer]

Thanks for all the tips. There is useful for fighting and such.

But I am really curious, can a prince be set up as a governor for a province and effect the amount of money being brought in, for that matter can my king as well?? Or does all that good dread and accumen go to waste on princes and kings??

Thanks

Panzermeyer

[Martok]

But I am really curious, can a prince be set up as a governor for a province and effect the amount of money being brought in, for that matter can my king as well?? Or does all that good dread and accumen go to waste on princes and kings??

As Goofball pointed out, your king's acumen and dread affects your whole kingdom. So a king with good dread and acumen will make *all* your provinces more loyal, plus their income will be higher.

It is different with princes, however. As long they're still directly in line for the throne, they can't be governors, and therefore their dread and acumen isn't very useful.

This changes, however, when the current king dies and the crown prince takes the throne. Because as soon as the new king has an heir come of age, your existing princes become regular generals, as they are no longer in line for the throne. You can then assign them titles, as their acumen and dread can now be put to good use.

[Panzermeyer]

Thanks alot Martok.
That totally answers my question.

Sincerely

Panzermeyer

[Ludens]

A few things I'd like to add. Sending governors out of their provinces does not have any bad effects. The absentee-landlord vice has nothing to do with distance to the province. In fact, keeping your governors fighting seems to make them less likely to become lazy or corrupt, although this can not be entirely prevented (especially once your kingdom gets big).

On the other hand, there is a bug in the game that makes virtues earned by governing (good steward, great builder, etc.) not go the governor, but to general commanding the stack the governor is in. This is nice, if rather cheesy, way to gain V&V's for your king or high-ranking generals, but it makes it hard to improve your governors, unless you keep them in a stack of their own.

Welcome to the Org, .