Religious People Maby should Not read this.

[Kommodus]

And i already Said the new testament isnt a problem,
Its the old testament.
Which was writen before jesu's so he wouldnt have had any better idea than you or I.

And i dont see where you can say I have more to learn before staring a discussion/debate.

Isnt the whole point of a debate to share oppinions And then learn from others input as well.

A ignorant stance of this is how it is, and thats all there is to it is the problem here.
And thats not on my part.


And it does say its 6k years old,
But it NEVER said the earth was flat.
Thats a modern day myth,
he may have said they were metaphores but that was HIS oppinion,

I'm not saying you need to learn more before starting a discussion or debate. I'm saying you should learn more before you start making sweeping, bold, confident assertions, as you did. Examples include calling the Old Testament a bunch of "dumb stories," claiming that people in ancient (pre-scientific) times were "really dumb," and the claims I refuted in my first post.

Unfortunately you continue to do it with this post.

For example, you continue to claim that the Bible says the earth is 6K years old. I challenged you to prove this, since I know it to be false. However, you continue to make the claim, even though you will never be able to demonstrate it.

Also, you claim that Jesus "wouldn't have had any better idea than you or I" about the Old Testament. Once again you make a confident claim without knowledge of the facts: if you had learned about Jewish culture during the life of Jesus - especially about what it meant to be a "rabbi" - or even read some of the early chapters in the gospels, you would never have made this claim. The depth of knowledge Jesus and other rabbis would have had about the O.T. is greater than you or I will ever fathom.

Finally, the use of metaphor, imagery, and other literary devices in the Bible does not originate with Jesus. It is prevalent throughout the entire writing - the prophets, the history, the poetry and wisdom books.

Once again, I'm not saying you can't participate in discussions on these topics. I'm saying you should come to ask questions and to learn, not to put your "know-it-all" ignorance on display. BTW, that's what I do all the time; like I said, I am not "learned" by any stretch of the imagination. Do you remember why Socrates considered himself the wisest man in Athens?

Because of all the philosophers there, he alone knew that he knew nothing.

[Just A Girl]

Im quite asertive bold and confrontetional.
I find its the best way to get people to express there real feelingas about the matter.

I have no problems in saying people were Dumb back then,
But i supose i shoud say Un-educated.

But again, The fact that i said dumb Has provoked an input from you,
And you seem to have Plenty of info to share,
So I dont see the problem.

I may have a strange almost agressive stype of puting my point across,
But im quite open minded,
"so long as you can demonstarte logically your point"

telling me Jesus said its a metaphore, isnt going to cuch much ice with me,

I beleve Jesus was nothing more than a Jewish carpenter Who recited fable's and myths trying to spread jewish beleifs. Then he married mary magnolyn, As Told by the scrolls mohamed found. This is most probably true as It would have been a GREAT stigma to any Male jew not to be married,. (But I dont think thats a bad thing)

I also beleve that the new testament is prety damn good as a historical referance.
But thats as about as far as i will endorce it.

Its the old contradiction's and Ludicrous claims made by people who wrote the Old testament Thats the problem,

The people who wrote it Tried to explain away the misterys of science befor they invented science,
and religion was the best explanation.

Science has since proven the eareth was not made in 6 days.

BUT.
So i dont get totaly 1 sided here.

In the early history of the earth we had much more ozone.
Which allowed animals and plants to Live longer and grow larger than there modern counterparts.

So its plausable that the early humans could have lived in to there 100's "baring illnes and injury"
However

930 yers at multiple thousand years per day = Total BS.

[Copperhaired Berserker!]

None will really care unless the spelling and grammar is fixed.

[Just A Girl]

What ever you say, Good to see you had Some Input on the matter LOL

[Just A Girl]

I really Love these people who come in here with No real reply so they try theold "grammer, Spelling" remarks.

Just shows how petty some really are

[Copperhaired Berserker!]

I haven't read much of the bible. But then again, one thing you need to know is that the bible is to explain the mysteries of life. I don't like it when people say that science is BS. You are saying that the bible is BS. WRONG! You are as bad as the people who say science is rubbish. So stop. You are not impressing anybody. And talking about petty people, how petty is it to complain about beirut even after apoligising and saying you wouldn't complain? Quite a lot. Your whining and moping annoys me.

[solypsist]

holy cow some people maybe should learn to quit with a bad idea.

[Slyspy]

I really Love these people who come in here with No real reply so they try theold "grammer, Spelling" remarks.

Just shows how petty some really are

You would get more people involved if you changed your posting style. It is hard to follow and looks childish so it detracts from that actual content of your posts, and makes people quick to dismiss you. Also, in an international forum it is wise to use standard English wording and structure because this is what they learn in other countries. People of other nationalities with English as a secondary language are likely to find your posts even harder to follow and so are more likely to misunderstand or to simply ignore you.

On topic I agree in some respects. The Bible, specifically Genesis in this case, is a jumbled collection of myths, explanatory stories and actual history. This means that it cannot be reasonably be taken literally whether you are religious or not. It is no more true than the Aztec theory of creation. However, this does not mean that it ceases to be relevant - faith is a strange thing.

[Just A Girl]

Im sure people will get acustomed to how i type,

Im not in any rush to change anything.
I take the time to read other peoples posts Even if they are almost totaly unreadable.
and il go to the trouble of deciphering it.
And il reply.

Dosent take much effort.
And you dont see me complaining.

But this was suposed to be a discussion about religion, and how illogical It is.

Theres no specific topic i know,
But its not.
"grammer spelling and punctuation, A rhetoric of."

Religion is fine in here all aspects of it,
Now my views tend to get up religious peoples noses.

So i named this thread a name that reflects that,

But it seems Most of you just want to Talk about grammer.
or come in and start Insulting me becous i said something you didnt like.

It's sad really.

[Proletariat]

Im quite asertive bold and confrontetional.
I find its the best way to get people to express there real feelingas about the matter.

You think this because you have no idea how many people aren't bothering in attempting to debate with you because of your arrogant ignorance coupled with horrid grammar.