Currently from what i recall, elephants in EB run on average 4 HPS, whereas in RTW vanilla, they were 12 for forest and 15 for war and armoured ele's.. i like to see a comprimise between the numbers in the neighborhood of 8-9. I mean its embarrasing that i can make 3 units of war elephants go down like a sack of potatos with 1 unit of conscript militia skirmishers on VH difficulty. Very ironic that a unit of potion drinking -armorless- naked men can manage to outfight being surrounded by respectable infantry, whereas in kind a behemoth of a creature armored from head to toe has to have the planets align for it to be effective. If my comrade in battle is taking the brunt of a Gasetae fighter from the front, and i thrust my sword into his bareskinned back and it goes through his chest, and then i yank my blade to one side.. it dont care if the guy's on PCP... he's going to feel that!