Includes America and Azteks? Huh?

[AntiochusIII]

I absolutely hate the idea, since it directs the focus away from the true game: Medieval Europe. This is Medieval: Total War (II).

Africa AND Asia are the TRUE extensions if they wish to do so. The Americas were completely out of the Medieval scope, no matter where you look from. The Mali (sp?) kingdom in Africa, and the Khwarasmian empire in Asia, on the other hand...

The African gold trade was important, and one king of that kingdom even visited Mecca in a glamorous fashion. Surely Mecca is part of the Medieval world? The Khwarasmian empire also crossed swords with the Mongols.

If they're in vanilla, they better stay out. Completely. A seperate campaign is fine, though.

[Akka]

Africa AND Asia are the TRUE extensions if they wish to do so. The Americas were completely out of the Medieval scope, no matter where you look from.

Exactly my thoughts.

[Hôjô Ujimara]

It's a really bad idea, if I wanted to conquer the Americas they're lots of games for that, but I want Europe.....

Fond memories of the past months on MTW could never be returned if the Americas were included. And as for Africa and Asia, it should only span partly down Africa, like the Egyptian Nile length, and only span to the edge of the Caspian to include Baghdad. A large map would make the game even longer than it should be, haulign units over the Atlantic doesn't soudn interesting to me, and if there's an increased speed for the boats, that menas you could whizz around Europe easily.

So in short, it should be removed.