Includes America and Azteks? Huh?

**King Yngvar** · 01-31-2006, 12:15

I say no, it means working time the developers must spend on this entirely unique faction, nothing can be borrowed from the European factions as I see it... This time could have been spent well improving and adding European factions, which is what the Medieval should be all about.

**nepal** · 01-31-2006, 15:50

We had no problem accepting a successful Mongol Invasion of Japan. So why not an Aztec Invasion of Europe, or at least a successful repulse of a European invasion of what they thought was India?

**Sykotyk Rampage** · 01-31-2006, 16:36

Hi everyone, read with humour......

Excellent point Nepal, this is a game that the player redirects history, not re-enacts history. We make our factions behave, as we would like. We are not bound by history; it is a game of our destiny, our re-making history.

I guess we should all complain when the Moors invade England in our games and take it over, or conquer Rome and convert the papacies religious believes. But I guess the disbelievers are right, CA should set very specific limits on our choices and the AI’s choices in game so we can never stray from the beaten path. Seems boring to me.

Scotland never fighting along the Spanish coast carving out my own piece of the Mediterranean I can call home. Setting up fine castles drinking a fine scotch whiskey watching the sunset and planning my conquest of North Africa.

But a knock on my door it’s the great AI god in the sky…. Oh sorry King Malcolm but according to my book the Scots never conquered England, Normandy, or Spain, and what’s this about heading off to Africa…. nope sorry back to the fine glades and lochs of Scotland for you.

Cut scene……………………..

“You have lost your empire to a mistake in following the true path. Please start again, please read the 1,700,000 HISTORY OF THE WORLD read me file enclosed with your game”

It’s a game. If you want history exact then read some history…or go out and take up something and make history…. find a cure for cancer, a new source of energy, get off the arm chair and become destiny. Because this is where you can make your own pretend destiny, and I am darn excited about settling into my armchair with a fine scotch whiskey kicking some Spanish butt so they never find the Aztecs. And if the Aztecs find me excellent cause I will kick their butt back to that great lake where they came from…try to take my villa on the Mediterranean…hey if you had snow ½ the year you would fight tooth and nail to protect your armchair in the sun.

Well laugh all. It is only a game. And again my qualifier for this site…. I am only joking.

Have a great snowy day.

**ajaxfetish** · 02-01-2006, 03:18

I think the problem isn't that people want the game to play out exactly as history did. It's that many people (myself included) want to play Medieval:Total War, rather than Age of Colonies: Total War. It's a game about the middle ages (and that happened in Europe, and some of Africa and Asia), and I don't want any distractions that risk lessening that experience.

Ajax

**Duke John** · 02-01-2006, 08:12

We had no problem accepting a successful Mongol Invasion of Japan. So why not an Aztec Invasion of Europe

The Mongols did have an invasion fleet, they did reach Japan, they did not succeed in establising a foothold before a disaster destroyed (most of) the fleet.
Why would it be difficult to accept that it could have succeeded? And why would you compare it to an entirely fictional Aztec invasion? But that is not how CA is going to put them into the game. The previews show that America is a source for resources and to get it you need to defeat the Aztecs.

**sapi** · 02-01-2006, 08:49

Originally Posted by ajaxfetish

I think the problem isn't that people want the game to play out exactly as history did. It's that many people (myself included) want to play Medieval:Total War, rather than Age of Colonies: Total War. It's a game about the middle ages (and that happened in Europe, and some of Africa and Asia), and I don't want any distractions that risk lessening that experience.

Ajax

You can always ignore that feature and focus on the war in Europe; it'll still be a good game even if you dont' like one feature...

**Trax** · 02-01-2006, 15:51

I really dont think that the Aztecs will only be ther for the Spanish. I´m sure every faction who has high enough naval development level can sail over there.

**Samurai Waki** · 02-02-2006, 00:03

Technologically speaking though, there would've been as much a chance that Aliens would invade Europe in the medieval ages, then the Aztecs being capable of crossing the Atlantic. If the Aztecs can't invade Europe, then I would be fine with the idea.