Includes America and Azteks? Huh?

[WarMachine420]

That's actually a very good idea The Portuguese started exploring the African coast in the early 15th century, almost 100 years before the game's ending date. Plus they opened a path to India with Vasco da Gama quite early as well. Actually it's much more logical to expand to include Africa and India before even thinking about expanding the map to include America, but I guess the America stuff is made for the popular 12 years old market, might attract more Spanish and American players who knows?

Right...because Spain and America have nothing but 12 year olds living in them right?

African coast? Bunch of ignorant half breeded sand creatures running around learning how to cover up their own dung.

^ about as ignorant as what you said.

[econ21]

I can't find the post you quote in this thread. It certainly has not been posted in the last few months. Regardless, please avoid flaming others.

[Rex_Pelasgorum]

I dont mind if Azteks came in. Anyway, i would like to see a Valahian faction in the game... necesarily...

Would be nice then to go whith my Valahians to hunt down some Aztecs

[Orb]

I haven't read through the thread but I really hope that CA don't do what I expect them to do with the Aztecs - 2HP, average armour, high attack troops.

I'd also rather have Africa (MAKURIA!!!)

[WarMachine420]

I can't find the post you quote in this thread. It certainly has not been posted in the last few months. Regardless, please avoid flaming others.

Apologies...I can just smell anti-americanism a mile away and take pride in attacking it where it is found. sorry.

[Kourutsu]

Attacking the Aztecs will be so fun.

Jaquar Warriors VS Seventy trebuchets(Flaming Missles On)

What a sight...Cannons would be more effective. But, not as fun.

[octavian]

It's easy just think AOE ;)

Oh god, that's scary...

[NeoSpartan]

I think it will be AWESOME. But agian it depends on how it will be implemented.

[Hepcat]

I like the idea, I am looking forward to discovering the New World, and hopefully playing as the Aztecs and invading the Old World. Although that wouldn't have been possible in reality it is still a game. The point of it is that you CAN change history. It would be stupid if you could only defeat the nations that you historically defeated, how fun would that be?

[Dracula(Romanian Vlad Tepes)]

There are o lot of options for this game and the map.I will show you 2 options:
1)Why you don't like America because when America is discovered the Europe is not so medieval anymore.So they should make America bigger to include other factions from america.It would be fun to play as azteks an fight for supremacy in america and after that to construct ships and take europe.
2)They should make america bigger and add the asia and africa.I think this would be the best solution even the game will be finished in 2007.

[hoetje]

Are you nuts?:P
i wanna play this game 3th November as said.
I don't wanna wait any longer:P
Besides,if you include all of those continents,I think the campaign map will be too big and it won't be fun to play anymore.You don't have an overview of the campaign map , in other words,when you include the entire world in the game

[Vuk]

I always try to do what some people/civilizations didn't do but there's standard. When playing Byzantine I always wipe out Turks first. It's not historically correct but Byzantine could wipe out Turks. The 'Americans' didn't even try set up expeditions beyond atlantic how could they invade Europe?

Maybe I'm just nitpicking or whatever. I admit I'd probably try to invade Europe when I play as Aztecs but it kinda defeats the purpose of basing a game on historical events then.

When the Spanish fought the aztecs, the had more of a problem with trickery and being poisoned than with enemy troops. I call to mind one battle in which 200 or so spaniards defeated an army of 400 thousand Aztecs. To make the Aztecs a military power would be a complete transgression of history. I think the Americas should be more of pot of gold for the Europeans than a continent of new nations to conquer. That's just me.

[hoetje]

When the Spanish fought the aztecs, the had more of a problem with trickery and being poisoned than with enemy troops. I call to mind one battle in which 200 or so spaniards defeated an army of 400 thousand Aztecs. To make the Aztecs a military power would be a complete transgression of history. I think the Americas should be more of pot of gold for the Europeans than a continent of new nations to conquer. That's just me.

I think you are absolutely right

[Joeokar]

When the Spanish fought the aztecs, the had more of a problem with trickery and being poisoned than with enemy troops. I call to mind one battle in which 200 or so spaniards defeated an army of 400 thousand Aztecs. To make the Aztecs a military power would be a complete transgression of history. I think the Americas should be more of pot of gold for the Europeans than a continent of new nations to conquer. That's just me.

400 thousand aztecs ...... whats next 100 million aztecs where beaten by 16 drunken spaniards

[JR-]

i would have preffered Eurasia instead of Europe+New World.

[Bakma]

i would have preffered Eurasia instead of Europe+New World.

I agree with you it would be good if we would have central asia till china.
And also the timurids safavids and moghuls as playable factions.

I see on the map that the areas kaukasus arabia and north afrika are to big so if you conquer them it is like if you would conquer 4-5 areas from europa

[Bakma]

what i mean is europe plus central asia

[Orb]

Personally, I'd love Makuria (Orthodox Christian Nubia).

I think it would be far better done if they had different start dates (E.g. 1080, 1205, 1321, 1450) and you get to take the Aztecs as playable (with very weak troops compared to Europeans and a reform option to allow better troops if the in the last.

Also, I'd like to see Europeans competing to reach the new world, so the date of discovery (and strength of expedition) varied with the stability of Europe and thus the Aztecs would have more or less time to prepare.

Regardless, adding Nubia and giving a fluid Egyptian reform (Fatimid-Ayyubid, based on religion - Salah al-Din is a powerful Shi'a governor, worse infantry and archers, better and more numerous cavalry) with civil war included would be nice.

[Marius Dynamite]

It sounds like a good Idea to me but it depends on other things in the campaign. I don't want to be the only nation in Europe in the early 1300s because it was so easy and then send my huge armies to conquer the new world. Some competition home and abroad would be nice. I'm having trouble Imagining how the campaign map will look. Surely it will take several turns to reach the New world with one fleet. The Atlantic is big, how will the campaign map be laid out?

[Dan.o6]

I think the best part of having the Aztecs around will be trying out their units in custom battles :D

[Yun Dog]

erm I thought it was MEDIEVIL total war

not Conquestidors Total War

erm Chrstopher Columbus....

this game has lost the plot... AOE4 with RTW graphics engine

ppffft was thinking of buying it just to look at the graphics for 5 minutes... now Im thinking it will just make me very very angry

[hoetje]

Yunus , don't be so pessimistic omg