Your favourite new features in m2tw?

**Fwapper** · 07-27-2006, 02:03

It's very hard to advertise the AI. The graphics are upfront, in your face things which make you go "Hey, that's pretty damn cool" (More like "Uuurgh... yummy gore... blooood... mmmm..." *faints with pleasure*)

Anyway... graphics are easy to advertise compared to AI. While AI mentionings seem to be getting more frequent, CA, and the makers of any strategy game for that matter, still won't, and really can't give that much away. We'll need to wait for a playable demo to come out before we can get our first sample of the AI, but it will be our 10000th sample of the graphics. People really give CA a really hard time over this... I'm in full support of constructively critisizing the AI flaws in current games, but senselessly bashing the AI in a game that isn't even out yet is just harsh.

Just my five good British pennies...

Fwapper

**Furious Mental** · 07-27-2006, 02:51

Well in all fairness the AI in RTW wasn't exactly Einstein, and unless CA says "The tactical AI is going to be much better than it was in RTW" people will assume that it is going to be the same old. As the inevitable release date approaches and the emphasis in press releases etc continues to be on things other than the tactical AI, people get crankier because it seems all the more likely that the AI is indeed the same.

**Fwapper** · 07-27-2006, 09:58

Hmmmm... suppose you're probably right...

I'll just patiently wait for the demo... and be cautiously optimistic...

:despair: (<--What!! No despair smiley?! Outrageous...)

**Puzz3D** · 07-27-2006, 13:29

Originally Posted by The Fwapper

I'll just patiently wait for the demo... and be cautiously optimistic...

Oh yes, the scripted demo with the unfinished skirmish AI ala RTW demo.

**x-dANGEr** · 07-27-2006, 13:44

like every man in a ranged unit shoots even if he isn't in range.

So you think it would be realistic that a man can let his arrow fly and hit a target at the range of 100 metres, but not at 100.5 metres?

**R'as al Ghul** · 07-27-2006, 14:10

Originally Posted by x-dANGEr

So you think it would be realistic that a man can let his arrow fly and hit a target at the range of 100 metres, but not at 100.5 metres?

Puzz3D refers to M:TW and S:TW where it was the case that only the first rank fired when in range. To make all 3 ranks fire it's required to move in a bit further/ closer to the enemy. Range is therefore measured for the individual soldier.
In R:TW the range is measured per unit. If one soldier is in range all are.

You can of course argue that the soldiers that stand 1 meter behind, in 2nd rank can fire just as well, but why have a max range at all then?
In Total War arrows have a max range for gameplay purpose. Being forced to move all three ranks in range also means that all three ranks can be hit.
The Rome gameplay takes away a lot of this little details that have impact on the tactics. Anyway, the Rome gameplay is so messed up imho, that it hardly matters that all archers of a unit always shoot.