Generals

[Ibn Munqidh]

how would they implement this into eastern factions, where royalty usually had more than fifty sons, not counting the daughters..... you'd have a royal member dying every turn!

[Akka]

I never liked the RTW family tree approach.
Much prefered the MTW method.
I hope they find an even better way to make things work, but I surely hope that there will be generals NOT tied to family. Most generals weren't part of a royal dynasty, after all, and I liked how each unit had its own personalized leader.

I'd like the option to be able to promote general, though, and so to be able to take a military genius from the town's militia unit, and make him a noble :p

[Bob the Insane]

I never liked the RTW family tree approach.
Much prefered the MTW method.
I hope they find an even better way to make things work, but I surely hope that there will be generals NOT tied to family. Most generals weren't part of a royal dynasty, after all, and I liked how each unit had its own personalized leader.

I'd like the option to be able to promote general, though, and so to be able to take a military genius from the town's militia unit, and make him a noble :p

I agree basically but it always bothered me when you got a really kick arse general leading a militia unit or something. I would like to see an expansion of the non-family member generals from BI to represent nobles...

For the royal family itself though I think the Family tree would work at it's best during the medieval period.

And as for chosing an heir, surely even by the early medieval it had become a widespread tradition for the first born son to inherit all?

[hoom]

I'd like the option to be able to promote general, though, and so to be able to take a military genius from the town's militia unit, and make him a noble

I dunno, I rather liked my 9 valour town militia generals unit.
Seriously, I once had a 9 star town militia general with various valour bonuses so that the whole huge size unit was 9 valour, they cut through anything like a hot knife through butter

[Sykotyk Rampage]

ya 9 generals rock

[Servius]

Ditto on Akka's stance. I really hated the RTW family system. I didn't like that the number of heirs was 1:1 relation with the number of provinces. I didn't like that they could be governors or generals, but not both. I know it's unrealistic, but I didn't like that they died either. I also didn't like the insane number of vices and virtues. MTW's system was cleaner, more flexible, and just better. When you can have 40 V&V, none of them really matter that much. It was overkill.

I DID like the ancillary system though. Not too many of them, confered a significant bonus, and the player had complete control of who got what. That was a good RTW innovation.

[Craterus]

Ditto on Akka's stance. I really hated the RTW family system. I didn't like that the number of heirs was 1:1 relation with the number of provinces. I didn't like that they could be governors or generals, but not both. I know it's unrealistic, but I didn't like that they died either. I also didn't like the insane number of vices and virtues. MTW's system was cleaner, more flexible, and just better. When you can have 40 V&V, none of them really matter that much. It was overkill.

I DID like the ancillary system though. Not too many of them, confered a significant bonus, and the player had complete control of who got what. That was a good RTW innovation.

It's not actually on a 1:1 ratio, that's just the guideline.

I liked the RTW family tree system and I hope they use it in M2:TW

I like the idea of having generals from outside the family though.