Hedgehogged AI unists stuck...

**Slaists** · 01-30-2006, 22:27

Has anyone else observed this? It seems, hedgehogged AI units just sit wherever they assume the hedgehog formation even if they are the attackers...

**Slug For A Butt** · 01-31-2006, 00:18

Yes, it seems that the AI uses schiltron as a last resort defensive position which would explain why they just sit and wait even when you are slicing and dicing them to ribbons with arrows.

**professorspatula** · 01-31-2006, 15:55

Yep, those units can be stupid. They end up being like land-mines, but without the explosions and feet going flying everywhere. You step too close to one and suddenly your troops are fighting some cowardly stationary unit.

To be fair, the units often have no chance whatsoever of surviving so I suppose they figure it's better they protect themselves from all directions and bring a few down with them before they die. It's just annoying they don't go back out of the formation and attempt to regroup if need be.

**A.Saturnus** · 01-31-2006, 21:10

Well, a few times I had free roaming cav getting engaged with these hedgehogs. Forming it is certainly better than being run down in a pursuit.

**TinCow** · 02-04-2006, 14:54

I think the main problem is that they pretty much never leave the formation once they go into it, even if the threatening cavalry is gone and the rest of their army has fled the field.

**Cras** · 02-10-2006, 11:27

I actually think its the best thing to do for them...

if they run I will kill them with my cavalry with a minimum off loss and a maximum effect.

they look pretty firece so untill now I directed my archers on them till there are not many left before attacking them

**antisocialmunky** · 02-11-2006, 23:23

It's what the last Spartans at Thermopolyae after the king had died. They took to a hill and were summarily shot up by archers to spare the infantry more casualties.

**Patricius** · 02-15-2006, 18:36

During one recent battle against the Celts my battle went badly and most of my units were lost. I reorganised all those two to five men in a units in a something reasonable. I managed to surround isolated units and destroyed them one by one. I thought that I had won but there were two full units of some unit in that hedgehog formation. Whatever way things fall twenty men were not going to defeat those. They left their formation and made short work of things. I might have screenshots, though I forget about gamma correction too often.