CWC Shogun Contest

[Tomisama]

Seriously considering putting together a STW Warlord Clan Wars Competition.

Will probably have to be a 2v2, maybe more?

Would like to have at least 4 Clans to start this off.

Any thoughts

(and yes it can be done )

[AggonyDuck]

Sounds like a rather good idea although I'd skip the thing with clans though and replace them with teams that players cuild build between themselves. As far as I know the current MI community is largely Ronin based, so you might end up with max 1-2 clan teams. Anyways if you do plan to host this tourney, then Aggony will offer you with atleast 1 team or even 2 if we can find enough MI players.

[Just A Girl]

Its suprizingly dificult to get the players for a tourny.

I have tried to create 3 so far.
the 1st went well.
the second had little interest,
And this time ive decided to give away a prize to the winner to entice more in,

I think you will be suprized at the lac of interest you will receve.
Even after hosts of messages aproving the idea,

[AggonyDuck]

I believe it's more a problem of not advertising in the right place really.
But anyways I figure already 4 teams would be a decent amount.

[Tomisama]

Sounds like a rather good idea although I'd skip the thing with clans though and replace them with teams that players cuild build between themselves. As far as I know the current MI community is largely Ronin based, so you might end up with max 1-2 clan teams. Anyways if you do plan to host this tourney, then Aggony will offer you with atleast 1 team or even 2 if we can find enough MI players.

The problem with Ronin is the permanence of partnership, as these Contests can take anywhere from 4 to even 6 months, depending on the number of contestant Teams. And that the Teams have to have some basic structure, and an official spokesperson.

But then again in our current Medieval Competition we have one Clan made up of Ronin players (VETS), that banded together especially to participate in the Contest. The same could be true here. Who knows?

It looks like the Hunters will have 1 or 2 Teams also

Its suprizingly dificult to get the players for a tourny.

I have tried to create 3 so far.
the 1st went well.
the second had little interest,
And this time ive decided to give away a prize to the winner to entice more in,

I think you will be suprized at the lac of interest you will receve.
Even after hosts of messages aproving the idea,

I have been running massive 4v4 Total War Contests for three years now. Over a hundred Clans having joined our Clan Wars Association over that period. Currently there are over seventy listed, who have signed up since the beginning of Rome alone. At our busiest, we have managed to have as many as six* Contests running simultaneously. Not that there haven’t be failures (2 out of 16 Contests did not make it for different reasons), but I think the overall track record is pretty good

I believe it's more a problem of not advertising in the right place really.
But anyways I figure already 4 teams would be a decent amount.

For this last Medieval Competition, I went door to door (Clans), and posted large advertisements on all of the major community forums (see Knights Of Valour below).

http://www.totalwar.org/index.php?st...ubaction=&id=&

But it was the door to door that really brought them in.

*Edit: I’m sorry, six Contests were posted, but only four were actually "in progress" at the same time. Don’t want to misrepresent any possibilities…

[Drisos]

Perhaps the 47Ronin would get a team together as well... but if we want to I first need to get shogun working again, trajan needs to get a new copy, methos needs to get over here again, and anskar needs to find some time.

Perhaps some Bears would like to join... I've been hanging around their forums for a while and they say they're intrested in shogun but I still haven't seen one of them in the foyer...

[Trajanus]

damnit the 47's would be there if any of us could get some time or actually connect!

Will see what we can do. Sounds like a great idea to get the ball rolling again.

[Just A Girl]

Hey drisos.
7bear7Bottom has been in the foyer :P
Although that was a little while ago,

But atleast its a glimmer of hope

[Drisos]

I know he was Januari 2005... But has he been in lately as well?

[Hunter KIng George]

Tomi,
After a couple of games today, (which were very fun) you can count me in if this contest goes thru...I agree a CWC based tourny would be great!
These guys deserve it! And I do believe by advertising this as you did with KOV we should have a good response...build it and they will come. (I hope)

[Tomisama]

Thanks George

The games we had to day were excellent weren’t they. This is a wonderful game, that feels more real to me than any of those that followed. It just has a natural flow to it.

Yes, "build it and they will come" has pretty much the CWC theory of operation all along. I will work on it this next week an see what can arranged

[Just A Girl]

I know he was Januari 2005... But has he been in lately as well?

usegi are a good clan to begin with.
IMO.
I like there starting position and they get cheap archers.
which is Great for a good start.

Shimazu must be my most played clan.
just start and go to war. Take out mori and the rebels 1st.
And you have only 2-3 provinces that need heavy defending.
Then you can build at your leasure.

Mori are quite similar.
being on thet thin strip of land, You need onl defend a few provinces hevily.

Was my server running then? I cant recall how long it has been running but due to the date shown for trish joining the org.
I dont think That my server was running in january 05.

I Think I remember,
Toga. and some 1 (sorry i forget) v's Me and bottom.
And that was on my server i belive.

So that would be March or aipril 05.
Also Bottom has gracfully alowed me to be able to contact him when ever i notice games are about to comence,
which he states he will join If he has the time.

so I believe there is a possibilaty for the 7bear7's to join in.
Although,
This is just speculation on my part.
And the fact that i mentioned this should have no real bearing on any thing,
as i am not afiliated with 7bear7 or any other clan and cannot possibly comment on there MP policies.

[Just A Girl]

Where did that second quote come from???
Any way.
Please ignore the second quote...
Im prety sure i did not add it.
And at the very least i did not try to.

[Drisos]

Hmmm not sure. Toga told me he and Anskar had a game vs. Heavysword and Bottom, and it must have been at the time I started.. so somewhere around Jan 2005. I think it was on Tosa server... I don't recall ever seeing Heavy on your server.

Hiya King George! good to hear you're in as well!

[Tomisama]

Coming Attractions

[Togakure]

Yep, back in September or so I played a few good games over a week with Bottom, Heavy, Duckie, Shakakhan, Anskar, Drisos, Methos, Shambles, Trish, etc. I know some of the Bears still have and play Shoggie, and many of the Aggonies too. It's been nice to see Kansuke back in the mix too (hiya Kans).

I strongly encourage active (and dormant) 47 Ronin to participate in this event! There are some great veteran players from other clans thinking about playing, most of whom have been absent from Shogun, and it's a good opportunity to demonstrate what a fun, talented Shoggie group we have. I'll make it a point to try and get the attention of members who have been away for a bit, to see if they will play.

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Hmm ...it's good that I cannot play right now--I would have a bit of a conflict. Until this proposed event, the Hunters have been an exclusively Medieval clan, and the 47s an exclusively Shogun "group." Now, it looks like there will be a crossover, and I belong to both groups ... gah. Thus far I have been able to belong to both without a conflict of interest. I'll have to bring up the issue with the Hunter council. Hopefully I won't have to choose between these two very fine groups, as I enjoy both very much.

[Trajanus]

I'm sure something can be worked out Toga, no need to worry over it!

[Togakure]

Not worried about it really. Just writing what came to mind as I read this thread. I'm as good as retired anyway so it doesn't really matter. And I know what I will do, in any case. Good luck getting this going everyone--sounds fun. 2v2 tourney is the way to go.

[Tomisama]

Toga-san,
I’m not on the Hunter Council, but know our Clan to be extremely community minded, and totally supportive of our members.



I was going to say that we may be edging towards a 3v3, but think a 2v2, with as many two person Teams as a Clan whishes to enter (same Clan Teams will not have to fight each other), will work very well.

This will be the most flexible tourney we have ever held. With 2 Battles per Round, if a Team wins at least one Battle, their Clan will gain a Team slot in the next Round. Players will only be restricted to changing Teams within a Round (once you play for one of your Clan’s Teams, you cannot play for another in the same Round), but besides that, Teams can be composed of any of their Clan members, at any point in the Competition.

With all of the possibilities for multiple same Clan Teams, there will still be only one Emissary from each Clan to arrange Match meeting times. But even this will not be too much of a burden, as this will be a strictly “no in game rules” Contest. Arranging times will be the Emissary’s only duty.

I hope this sounds interesting to everybody.

[Hunter KIng George]

TOGA!

I knew I would see you here soon... I thought about this topic long time ago...you had mentioned this before and when I finally logged on this past Sunday, it tapped into my mind again. As much as the Hunters would love for you to represent us in STW (if you were able to play), I think you owe it to your old m8's the ronins and would only be right to represent them in STW especially in this kind of a tourny! As you said Hunters are mostly MTW/VI with a couple of us jumping into RTW/BI from time to time, so no worries m8...just wished you were able to play regardless which side you were on for this tourny.

P.s. Thx for the nomination Toga and the vote Tomi...I am now part of the council! wooo hooo!
And Hi Drisos!

[Togakure]

TOGA!

I knew I would see you here soon... I thought about this topic long time ago...you had mentioned this before and when I finally logged on this past Sunday, it tapped into my mind again. As much as the Hunters would love for you to represent us in STW (if you were able to play), I think you owe it to your old m8's the ronins and would only be right to represent them in STW especially in this kind of a tourny! As you said Hunters are mostly MTW/VI with a couple of us jumping into RTW/BI from time to time, so no worries m8...just wished you were able to play regardless which side you were on for this tourny.

P.s. Thx for the nomination Toga and the vote Tomi...I am now part of the council! wooo hooo!

Thanks George and Tomi. I didn't really think it would be an issue, but I couldn't just pretend not to notice it either. If I could play, I owe it to my wingmate Anskar to double up with him in a 2v2. He's my wingmate--what more need be said ... . However, in a subsequent tourney it would be fun to request permission from the 47s to play as a Hunter against them (most of them would prolly laugh and look forward to stomping me as they have many times before). It would be fun, as long as they were all cool with it.

I favor 2v2s for a few reasons: the Shogun maps are smaller, and 3v3s tend to turn into a lineup-shoot-and wait for the losers of the ranged battle to make a mistake. 2v2 offers a lot more in terms of manuever-related tactics. Also, depending on who is hosting, performance can sometimes be an issue (though mainly for 4v4 in Shoggie, not so much 3v3). 4v4s in Shoggie are not really doable imo--too much lag, and everyone is so tightly packed at battle begin that it's fast and furious, with reaction speed being more important than strategy and tactics. But that's just my take.

[Kansuke]

Hi All,

Count me in, I am very very rusty after nearly 2 year abscence but keen

Hi Toga, hopefully I see you guys this Sunday.

Mim, you wanna get out of retirement for this tourny?

Kans..

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Mim, you wanna get out of retirement for this tourny?

Kans..

Temptation is too strong to resist...

that's why I left my games at home lol

[Drisos]

that's why I left my games at home lol

well, only pick stw

[R'as al Ghul]

I already posted this here

Teams can be sponsored by Clans, and also be created by Ronin players.

More on this very soon. Hopefully this weekend I will have Rules and Sign-Up posted.

Salute!

Konnichiwa!

If you accept Ronin players in this tournament, I'd gladly
sharpen my dotanuki battlesword and volunteer as a partner
for any Ronin without one.
I've to say though that I'm a bit rusty at the moment.
I haven't ploayed in months.

[Shin-GaiJin]

I would like to be included but as the last remaining 'active' Shinkage player, I will need to find a partner.I will post when I find one


ShinGaiJin

[Drisos]

Well you can ask Iguana if he finally finished tech problems on his computer

[arcade81]

another player interested here?

Not affliated with a clan, so will need a partner also.

[Tomisama]

Though the Rules have not been settled yet, the Shogun Contest Roster (for Clans), and the Shogun Ronin Register (for individuals), have been posted for Sign-Up.

http://p219.ezboard.com/bclanwars3540

[Kansuke]

Signed up!