Scipii still not expanding

**DarKorg** · 02-01-2006, 06:58

After the Scipii take Syracuse and the other cities, they still don't get off that darn island and just linger around as in 1.3 (I have BI with 1.6/1.5).
I thought this was fixed?

3 campaigns so far, no expanding

**Monarch** · 02-01-2006, 18:41

Hmm. It's not for some sort of obvious reason like your taking cities they might? Something not technical.

In my 1.5 Seleucid campaign, well its pbm but..., Scipii actually took Sicily and are now in Greece, possibly due to Carthage is actually expanding which is something I hardly ever see and possible invasion attempts there have been countered.

**Drusus Magnus** · 02-01-2006, 18:53

When I was playing the Brutii, I thought I'd try to build up my two starting cities for a century, then pouring out with imperial troops. I was planning to have the Macedonian or Greek emerge as a victor and to actually fight a strong enemy once. I had to leave the confines of Italy, because the Scipii began to land full stack after stack near Sparta and Athens. They had conquered southern Greece by the time I sent my own armies there. So I guess they, like the Brutii AI, capture Greece, than go up ( instead of crossing the sea and going to Asia Minor like they should ).

**fallen851** · 02-01-2006, 20:03

So for proper Roman expansion, I guess you have to play as either the Scipii or the Brutii and head straight for Carthage...

**Upxl** · 02-01-2006, 21:03

Originally Posted by Drusus Magnus

So I guess they, like the Brutii AI, capture Greece, than go up ( instead of crossing the sea and going to Asia Minor like they should ).

In my campaign after they took Greece the advanced eastwards to Turkey.

**DarKorg** · 02-02-2006, 11:30

Funny, all of you guys are saying the Scipii are doing what the Brutii should be doing..that is exactly what mine are doing now.

**manbaps** · 02-02-2006, 12:34

Maybe CA have acidently given them the same AI, though in my first 1.5 campaign as Julii the scipii took sciliy then went to help brutii in Greece and only took Sparta then went on and took Carthage and the one below.
Though after taking sciliy and Sparta it was about 30 years before they did anything.

**Monarch** · 02-02-2006, 18:23

Originally Posted by manbaps

Maybe CA have acidently given them the same AI, though in my first 1.5 campaign as Julii the scipii took sciliy then went to help brutii in Greece and only took Sparta then went on and took Carthage and the one below.
Though after taking sciliy and Sparta it was about 30 years before they did anything.

Well Scipii took sicily first like usual, it was jsut after that things went weird. Thing is this is allowing Carthage to expand.

**KrooK** · 02-05-2006, 02:30

in mine julii campaign when i was conquering gaul germania dacja and iberia, scipii conquered all africa, arabia, and a almost all minor asia

**TB666** · 02-05-2006, 02:44

In my last game they went after Carthage.
They got beaten everytime but they still tried.

**vastator** · 02-21-2006, 13:18

In my last Brutii campaign (my first with v1.5) the Scipii took Africa west of Cyrene, which I'd expected. They also grabbed Sardinia and the Balearic Islands, plus the whole of Spain except for Osca (the Julii got there first). It's the first time I've seen the Scipii expand outside Africa.

**Garvanko** · 02-21-2006, 13:34

Just started a Julii 'rule the world' campaign, and the Scipii have been slow of the mark. Taken Sicily, and Caralis even. Haven't made any attempt at going for carthage yet, and its been 20 or so turns gone.

**symball** · 02-21-2006, 15:06

they will still go after africa but they seem to take a long time over it- much longer thean they used to before they got 'broken'. this might lead to their going into greece and then down through turkey as it gives carthage time to get big enough to repulse them, forcing them to go for an easier and more profitable option. (as carthage is too strong the next most profitable targets are in greece as the greeks and macedonians will be occupied with the brutii)

**Nelson** · 02-21-2006, 21:00

In my current Julii campaign the Scipii have all of Sicily and are in Africa fighting for Thapsus while I blockade Carthage. Meanwhile, the Brutii are expanding into Greece. This is after about 30 turns I guess.

**The Spartan (Returns)** · 02-21-2006, 23:03

i have RTW 1.5. once Scipii took over Carthaginians and are now at war with Numidia. It happens some times but rarely. They should make another patch for this!