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    Over at the Sega USA website I noticed that under battles it said 'quicker pace' - I hope it means that combat is quicker not the time taken to fight them.

    Bigger and better battles: Improved combat choreography, larger armies, quicker pace, and spectacular finishing moves make this the most visceral and exciting Total War ever.
    I also noticed bow stings

    http://www.sega.com/games/game_temp....eval2&id=hp_mp
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    Oh no... Please no... Please let it just be something that does not involve the actual fighting!!!

    Urgh... I... I feel faint of heart... Need medicine... No, a defibrilator!
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    It might mean the speed of the swings and blocks etc - I hope

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    Slower CA... SLOWER!!!! Not faster! You are killing us here... Ok, you are killing ME, but that is bad enough (yes I'm important).

    This would be a really great time for a dev to step in and reassure me that the combat will indeed take longer than 30 seconds after impact.

    Get a grip on yourself!

    *Grips myself*

    Good... Well no, but there is nothing more than a single little line saying something like 'faster pace', could mean anything and we, and especially me, shouldn't get worked up yet. But it is certainly not good news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraxis
    This would be a really great time for a dev to step in and reassure me that the combat will indeed take longer than 30 seconds after impact.
    30 seconds in RTW? If only! I think once I measured it at about 10....

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    Don't panic - quicker paced may refer to the campaign speed. RTW campaigns are faster than STW and MTW campaigns, I think, but still very long and IMO lacking pace. The mods that slow down the battles - RTR and EB - are even more glacial at the level of the campaign. (I think EB requires about 1000 turns to get the Marian reforms.) By contrast, I think BI was a step in the right direction with less provinces, a shorter campaign and big unpredictable threatening hordes (I've nothing against a mega-campaign, but give us the options of more bite-sized ones too).

    I've been playing Civ4 and although it is also lengthy (on epic/huge), it manages to be more tense and exciting ("one more turn") than TW. I'd like to see more done to get the "fewer and more decisive" battles we were promised in RTW. Fewer skirmishes (especially with spawning rebels) and no contest sieges.

    Of course, a key way Civ4 maintains the tension is by having an AI that really breathes down your neck. TW needs a little more of that element of danger. IMO, the threat from AI factions in the campaigns has progressively diminished as we've moved from STW to MTW to RTW. Of course, we'd love cleverer AI but in the absence of that raising the AI threat may just require more Civ style cheats to boost the AIs resources. (EB has recognised that with the scripts to keep replenishing the AIs coffers).
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    You might be right, however the sentence was to do with the 3D battles not the overall game.

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    Don't kill me, but I liked the speed of the RTW battles, and actually wouldn't mind if they were a tad bit quicker...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
    Don't kill me, but I liked the speed of the RTW battles, and actually wouldn't mind if they were a tad bit quicker...

    [Martok comes at Reenk Roink with a club] Hold still! I promise I'll be quick.


    Seriously, though, shorter battles would be very very bad. I admittedly could usually do without the epic 5-10 hour-long battles we sometimes have in Medieval, but I was very dismayed that most battles in Rome didn't last more than 5 minutes or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
    Don't kill me, but I liked the speed of the RTW battles, and actually wouldn't mind if they were a tad bit quicker...
    So what do you want?any faster and two units would meet, Decide emediately who was the best and the lesser would route. This is one of the most fundamental floors with RTW the fact that things happen so fast that your not given time to implement any tactics.Thats the main reason I went back to MTW. Rome just feels like a very pretty arcade game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraxis


    Oh no... Please no... Please let it just be something that does not involve the actual fighting!!!

    Urgh... I... I feel faint of heart... Need medicine... No, a defibrilator!
    Stat!

    Clear!!!

    I'll do the heart massage ... could someone else do the mouth to mouth on sleeping beauty . Please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    Stat!

    Clear!!!

    I'll do the heart massage ... could someone else do the mouth to mouth on sleeping beauty . Please.


    PLEASE GIVE US BACK THE SPEED BAR!!! :(
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    I really think that they should include a slower battle speed option, along with other similar things. I have no doubt that there will be options for arcade battles and such, and I don't mind if the default setting will be arcadish, but only as long as there is an option to make it *less* arcadish too. I think this time around we who want those options (again, options - make the defaults appeal to a wider audience) should really get them.
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    Well, it's possible they mean faster paced compared to the original MTW - just like RTW was. However, this is still not good, but a darned sight better than faster paced compared to RTW. The very first thing I did after playing RTW for an hour was mod the battle movement speeds down, and increase the morale of all units to stop insta-routs. I hope I don't need to do this again with M2TW...

    Slower is better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraxis


    Oh no... Please no... Please let it just be something that does not involve the actual fighting!!!

    Urgh... I... I feel faint of heart... Need medicine... No, a defibrilator!
    qft

    Don't kill me, but I liked the speed of the RTW battles, and actually wouldn't mind if they were a tad bit quicker...
    Go back to a real rts, not a total war game...

    Something like the rtr system would suit me...
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    We want Sonic speed in battles...
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