Religious intolerance or freedom of speech.

**Adrian II** · 02-02-2006, 15:16

Originally Posted by Fragony

Remoulade mia muca.

Thank you, mi dushi.

Originally Posted by Fragony

And now that you go viking, buy the movie 'Festen'. Greatest movie ever made.

What makes you think I never watched it? I saw most Dogma movies, but I like Von Trier and particularly his Breaking the Waves best.

**Fragony** · 02-02-2006, 15:24

Originally Posted by AdrianII

What makes you think I never watched it?

You didn't start about it ;)

Best movies are made in Scandinavia anyway, have you seen Fanny och Alexander(full cut, 6 hours!)? And Breaking the waves is very good indeed, Lars von Trier is arrogant and pretentious, and rightfully so. The only 'bad' one is the Idiots, it just doesn't work. He also did this weird horror series that I want to have, it is set in a hospital but I forgot the name....

**Adrian II** · 02-02-2006, 15:34

Originally Posted by Fragony

You didn't start about it ;)

Best movies are made in Scandinavia anyway, have you seen Fanny och Alexander(full cut, 6 hours!)? And Breaking the waves is very good indeed, Lars von Trier is arrogant and pretentious, and rightfully so. The only 'bad' one is the Idiots, it just doesn't work. He also did this weird horror series that I want to have, it is set in a hospital but I forgot the name....

Kingdom Hospital -- inspired by Stephen King it seems. Never saw the series. Idiots a flop? It could be argued. I thought Dogville would be a total flop, but boy did that empty set work...

**Fragony** · 02-02-2006, 15:37

Originally Posted by AdrianII

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Dogville would be a total flop, but boy did that empty set work...

Fantastic movie, but boy is it harsh to watch. I showed it to my barbarian friends but they didn't get it. Especially the end is great 'there is a mother with kids, kill the kids first and make her watch, I owe her that' yikes! And vivaldi just rocks.

**Sjakihata** · 02-02-2006, 16:13

Originally Posted by Fragony

He also did this weird horror series that I want to have, it is set in a hospital but I forgot the name....

Riget. Also an american version of it was made. It's scary!

**Fragony** · 02-02-2006, 16:20

Originally Posted by Sjakihata

Riget. Also an american version of it was made. It's scary!

Thanks Sjak, I only saw the english version which was quite good but you can't beat the master

**Vladimir** · 02-02-2006, 15:26

This event and the French riots are snapshots into Europe's future. White Europe is dying and the freedom of speech may die with them. If the demographic trend continues "traditional" Europeans will become a minority. Germany and France have been unwilling and unable to assimilate their immigrant population and it seems that Denmark and the UK face a similar problem. The US also is having an immigration problem. Personally, I think I'm going to learn Chinese

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**Fragony** · 02-02-2006, 15:34

Originally Posted by Vladimir

This event and the French riots are snapshots into Europe's future. White Europe is dying and the freedom of speech may die with them. If the demographic trend continues "traditional" Europeans will become a minority. Germany and France have been unwilling and unable to assimilate their immigrant population and it seems that Denmark and the UK face a similar problem. The US also is having an immigration problem. Personally, I think I'm going to learn Chinese

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Put your hands in the air, put your opinion on the floor and step away from it!

ahhhh god old Europe....so progressive they never miss a chance to defend a ultra conservatist movement

**Lazul** · 02-02-2006, 15:44

Originally Posted by Vladimir

White Europe is dying...

Sieg Heil?

**Fragony** · 02-02-2006, 15:50

Originally Posted by Lazul

Sieg Heil?

Call Godwin?

**Adrian II** · 02-02-2006, 15:55

Originally Posted by Vladimir

This event and the French riots are snapshots into Europe's future. White Europe is dying and the freedom of speech may die with them.

Free speech has always been in danger of succumbing to the hysteria of the moment. Remember WWI, Hitler, Stalin, the anguish of the Cold War, the creep towards Big Brother? There have been countless internal and external threats to this hard-fought European tradition. The fact that new threats emerge does not mean that it will simply lie down and die this time round. The fight has always been the same, only the battlefield changed time and again. And it is changing right now. Freedom of speech has found new allies in Asia, Latin America and the Arab world, for instance in Lebanon. Even most Arab immigrants in Europe, many of whom may have trouble adapting to it, couldn't live without it anymore.