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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianII
    And here I was thinking Mr Mandelson was stepping forward instead of stepping back.
    Is it all a matter of perspective, as they say?
    Depends on how much you value our way of life. It is giving in to blackmail, nothing more. Trying to give in a little to keep the peace is nothing more then a invitation to do worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony
    Depends on how much you value our way of life. It is giving in to blackmail, nothing more. Trying to give in a little to keep the peace is nothing more then a invitation to do worse.
    Or an invitation to calm down and prevent worse, according to the principles of what is known in civilised circles as 'diplomacy'. For Pete's sake, a European Commissioner is a diplomat, not a xenophobic street fighter.
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    BBC has just broadcast the caricatures, nice try Mr Mandelson, to no avail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sjakihata
    BBC has just broadcast the caricatures, nice try Mr Mandelson, to no avail.
    As if Mandelson didn't know beforehand that they would be re-published. There is nothing he can do about it, despite Fragony's suggestions that EU Commissioners have Darth Vader like powers to vaporise obstinate editors.

    But what he has done is distance himself and the European Union from the policy of some papers (i.e. from the caricatures in question, not from the right to publish those caricatures). People who question Mandelson's attitude apparently have trouble understanding the concept of free speech. Free speech applies to governemts as well, and it includes their right to distance themselves from expressions they find inappropriate or unhelpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianII
    despite Fragony's suggestions that EU Commissioners have Darth Vader like powers to vaporise obstinate editors.
    Oh you naughty. It is the destructive idea that whatever happens, it must be our fault. I have to compliment the idea that we are just so good that perfection is just out of reach and that we soon will all be making love war, and that we just have channel all that negative energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony
    Oh you naughty. It is the destructive idea that whatever happens, it must be our fault. I have to compliment the idea that we are just so good that perfection is just out of reach and that we soon will all be making love war, and that we just have channel all that negative energy.
    Channelling negative energy - now there is a good description of 'diplomacy' if ever I saw one.
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    Or an invitation to calm down and prevent worse, according to the principles of what is known in civilised circles as 'diplomacy'. [/QUOTE]

    Diplomacy has never been civilised, diplomacy is war. Trying to not offend these guys is giving in to threats of a bunch of sandland retards that found another target besides their wives for a change. Why do we always have to act like a abused wife that wonders what she did wrong?

    not a xenophobic street fighter.

    That's just nasty, I better report.

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    If newspapers all over the world print these drawings, the whole boycott problem is solved.

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    It loses some of its hilarity when there's an article right below telling Muslims to kill those who insult Mohammed.

    Here's some cartoons from the Arab world; the vast majority of which are much cruder and more insulting than anything the Danes printed: http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/ArabCartoons.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    It loses some of its hilarity when there's an article right below telling Muslims to kill those who insult Mohammed.
    It`s certainly not the first time that has happened. I do not take such threats much serious any longer.
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