Religious intolerance or freedom of speech.

[Papewaio]

Well at least I can now see the irony.

To protest a cartoon that depects a religious leader as a terrorist. Some of the so called followers of the religious leader are going to show the rest of the world the falseness of these cartoons by the followers engaging in terrorist acts.

I wonder if they ever watched the Life of Brian and thought it was a documentary?

[InsaneApache]

I wonder what you would have preferred him to say instead of what he actually said. "Pfwoar, laughed me arse off at those cartoons! What are the towelheads getting worked up over? Get a loife?"

Something along those lines?

I objected to his assertion that the UK press should not print the cartoons. I repeat it has got nothing to do with him.

Even Tony has put some clear blue water between Downing St. and his erstwhile ally.

Downing Street tried to distance itself from the row by saying it was wrong for Tony Blair to tell the media what to do. Asked if he agreed with Peter Mandelson, the EU Trade Commissioner, who urged newspapers to think twice before publishing the cartoons, the Prime Minister’s spokesman said: “This is entirely a matter for the media organisations to decide what they ought to do within the law.”

here

Now Jack'boot' Straw has thrown his hat into the ring. God what a bleedin' shower. They want to try growing a backbone.

Foreign Secretary Jack Straw has condemned the decision by some European newspapers to reproduce cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad as "disrespectful".

and here

I remember the deafening silence from these fellas when Iqbal Sacranie denounced homosexuals about a month back. One has to wonder how far these politicians will fawn to the Islamists?

[Adrian II]

I objected to his assertion that the UK press should not print the cartoons. I repeat it has got nothing to do with him.

You mean the European press. And it has to do with Mandelson, because he is controlling a trade row. As for Jack Straw, he and his government have the right to their own opinion just like everyone else.

On Sacranie's remarks you have a point. They were investigated by Police and found to be legal, but barely. However, that is not the real issue. Sacranie and some other Muslim clerics are advisers to Tony Blair, and Blair should distance himself from them as soon as possible. Bar one or two, they are an unpalatable lot and deserve no special consideration because of the people they claim to represent.

[InsaneApache]

However, that is not the real issue. Sacranie and some other Muslim clerics are advisers to Tony Blair, and Blair should distance himself from them as soon as possible. Bar one or two, they are an unpalatable lot and deserve no special consideration because of the people they claim to represent.

I couldn't agree more. Why Blair decided to jump into bed with that lot is a mystery to me. Most of the Muslims I know think, at best, they are self-righteous prigs and at worst traitors.

The UK is, thank God, ( )a secular state and should remain as such.

[Navaros]

Well at least I can now see the irony.

To protest a cartoon that depects a religious leader as a terrorist. Some of the so called followers of the religious leader are going to show the rest of the world the falseness of these cartoons by the followers engaging in terrorist acts.

I wonder if they ever watched the Life of Brian and thought it was a documentary?

I didn't know where to jump in on this thread so this seemed as good a post as any.

Standing up for one's religion is not terrorism.

Face it, protests don't mean anything. They never accomplish anything. No one cares about protests. Instead of wasting time with a bunch of useless crap like protests, Muslims will take actions that actually get noticed and have their voices be heard loud, clear, and universally.

Muslims will not tolerate their holy figures being mocked. That is to be commended.

It was common knowledge that to mock Muslim holy figures is to incur the wrath of all Muslims who truly believe in what their Holy Book says. They do not take it lightly as most so-called Christians these days do. Hence the paper and cartoonist responsible for that filth should have fully seen this all coming.

I'm sure all real Muslims would have the good taste to never watch blasphemous trash like "Life of Brian". If they did have the misfortune to watch it, it would incur similar wrath in their hearts. And rightly so in my view.

[Fragony]

Muslims will not tolerate their holy figures being mocked. That is to be commended.

Muslims should realise where they are. I don't care what they do in their own perverted part of the world but here we have something called civilisation. They are guests and should stfu when adults are talking, muslims will not tolerate anything that isn't muslim anyway. Muslims in Europe should lighten up and behave like real people instead of a rabid mob, maybe their are just too many shiny objects here which they can't deal with.

[Adrian II]

Muslims in Europe should lighten up and behave like real people instead of a rabid mob, maybe their are just too many shiny objects here which they can't deal with.

My dear boy, I don't for the love of me understand what you are talking about. There are millions of Muslims in Europe who all go about their daily business without shouting, demonstrating, siging petitions or calling for anyone's execution.

[Navaros]

Muslims should realise where they are. I don't care what they do in their own perverted part of the world but here we have something called civilisation. They are guests and should stfu when adults are talking, muslims will not tolerate anything that isn't muslim anyway. Muslims in Europe should lighten up and behave like real people instead of a rabid mob, maybe their are just too many shiny objects here which they can't deal with.

If Muslims were not instigated into behaving as a rabid mob, then they would not.

It's pretty simple: mess with them, and they mess with you back.

Can't really blame them for that in my view.

[Red Peasant]

If Muslims were not instigated into behaving as a rabid mob, then they would not.

It's pretty simple: mess with them, and they mess with you back.

Can't really blame them for that in my view.

Over satirical cartoons?!! Get Real.

They were published something like five months ago, and now suddenly this ridiculous hysteria and violence. This situation has been engineered by certain muslims for their own twisted reasons, and the Danes have little to do with it.

[Navaros]

Over satirical cartoons?!! Get Real.

They were published something like five months ago, and now suddenly this ridiculous hysteria and violence. This situation has been engineered by certain muslims for their own twisted reasons, and the Danes have little to do with it.

The age of them does not matter; they are just as digusting regardless of their age. Similar things have happened in New York and other places in the USA when some foolish men in the USA thought they could get it away with posting derogatory 'art' of the Prophet. This reaction from Muslims is nothing new, and it will happen time and time again any time something of this nature occurs.

Obviously they are much more than "satirical cartoons". Rather, they are a sick violation of something deeply sacred.

[Vladimir]

Blah Blah Blah

Enter the apologist (I've been wanting to use that word). The man who tries to tiptoe around the issue and intimately makes his convictions clear when it says: "it's not their fault". Just keep sending those checks to CAIR and keep the faith brother.

[Red Peasant]

Obviously they are much more than "satirical cartoons". Rather, they are a sick violation of something deeply sacred.

You're kidding right? You crack me up. I think most Europeans would definitely disagree.

Of course, I do respect your right to hold your opinions, but I don't respect them. Muslims will never respect our right to our opinions in our countries without issuing their fatwas and threatening violence. If they don't want to buy European cheese, then fair enough, but we don't have to deal with them either.
If you move to a Muslim country then you may find enough people who agree with you, you might feel better for it.

[Fragony]

If Muslims were not instigated into behaving as a rabid mob, then they would not.

It's pretty simple: mess with them, and they mess with you back.

Can't really blame them for that in my view.

Don't mess with them, and they will mess with you anyway, we simply cannot meet their demands.

My dear boy, I don't for the love of me understand what you are talking about. There are millions of Muslims in Europe who all go about their daily business without shouting, demonstrating, siging petitions or calling for anyone's execution.

Still early, probably sleeping.

[caravel]

While I cannot agree with the typcasting of all muslims as raging fanatics, I can understand some of the points raised by Navaros, that those muslims in question are acting in defense of their own religion. But does this defense require violent behaviour and attacks against neutral parties? Are they not just as bad as those that published these images when they will burn european national flags, destroy a consulate building and run about toting guns with little excuse? Denmark, a country that has hardly offended anyone, is hardly part of the bush/blair "empire". It was Denmark's free press that published this, not the Danes and not their government. The press is not the voice of the government. Unlike islamic states (and many non islamic ones for that matter), Denmark has a real democracy with a press that is free to comment on, and criticize almost anything, it is not bound by religion or government control. Have these muslims considered, that when they burn the national flag of the majority of Danes that did not support or endorse this publication in any way, that they are targeting an entire people for the actions of a tiny minority?

Obviously not, but as usual the fanatical zealots that endorse suicide bombers, "beheadings" and the burnings of flags and effigies, are whipping up the greater majority of the ignorant masses into a fury. Those involved understand nothing about the west whatosever apart from what their media and these manipulative clerics want them to know. The worst.

Those that are living in western european countries as asylum seekers or immigrants and engage in such actions as vandalism, incitement of hatred etc are even worse in my opinion. Such individuals have absolutely no respect for the country that has taken them in, they are there as abusers and nothing more.

Those protesting in london with placards such as "Behead the one who insults the prophet" and "Free speech go to hell" need to ask themselves the question: "Do I belong in a civilised western european democracy?"

[Fragony]

hmmm,

Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage.

Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.

A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India. Kills six. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage.

Let's go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim
outrage.

Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage.

Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage

Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.

Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged.

Now are we just that civil are or they nuts? Yes, we and they.

Oh wait, fresh from the press. Priest in Turkey gets shot to death. No, well you get it.