Immunity from prosecution?

**Ulair** · 02-01-2006, 23:24

Here's a funny thing. I've just finished a game (the glory of the Hungarian Empire unmatched in 1453 an' all that) but in the latter stages my 6* Grand Inquisitors have had 0% chance of burning, erm, I mean absolving from sin, the King of Castile-Leon (I'm playing XL mod).

For half the game I've had a squad of three 6* GIs doing a good job of keeping people in order but in the last years the re-emergent Castile-Leonese seem to have been immune, even when excommunicated! Their king has been down at 0 piety, Athiest V&V and excommed - and still 0% chance of conviction

Anyone seen this? Is this a feature of Late? An XL oddity?

I know revved-up squads of GIs is a little cheesy as a backdoor way of taking factions out, but hey! Actually in XL, as well as its superior military strategy, the AI seems to play a better agent game than vanilla VI - I even saw the excommed C-L assassinate the Pope, which I'd never seen the comp do before!

Curiously,
Ulair

**Third spearman from the left** · 02-02-2006, 00:17

Kick-ass agents.....I think your on the right track about the AI's use of agents. In XL the AI trains up a lot more agents and seems to target them that bit better. In my Volga game the AI is sending waves of agents of all kinds against me, something that I didn't see happen as often in normal mtv-vi.

**Geezer57** · 02-02-2006, 00:34

Wht's the zeal of the province he's in? And can you see any rival Bishops/Cardinals in there with him?

**antisocialmunky** · 02-02-2006, 01:39

Throw regular inquisitors at them until they lose all hope and curse God.. at which point your grand inquisitor should start piling up the kindling...

However, there are just times WHEN THEY WON'T DIE... I usually go for better pickings because its probably a bishop or cardnial shield.

**Matty** · 02-02-2006, 10:03

I've had the same thing, only against rulers. The English king withstood four 6 and 7 star inquisitors and a 6 star grand inquisitor for decades, always with a 0% chance. Eventually I targeted his sons and then the fool decided to turn up in Antioch with a small army. Goodnight the English.

**Davidian** · 02-02-2006, 11:54

You cant prosecute kings.

**Ludens** · 02-02-2006, 16:59

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

Throw regular inquisitors at them until they lose all hope and curse God.. at which point your grand inquisitor should start piling up the kindling...

I think he already did. He is an atheist. You can't get much worse than that. The cause can be either bishops and cardinals or low zeal, or both. Perhaps you should let the inquisitor increase the religious fervour of the province before trying again.

**Ulair** · 02-15-2006, 21:57

Could well be the zeal factor - I don't recall any bishops hanging around and certainly no cardinals.

@Davidian: ooh, yes you can persecute kings - that's what makes Grand Inquisitors so deadly to Catholic factions. That and the fact you can just keep trying until he passes through the ultra-devout phase and becomes an atheist, after which his resistance seems to decrease a few percentage points each failed attempt until you get him.

It's perhaps just as well you can't fry Orthodox, Muslim or Pagan factions. Too unbalancing by half.

Thanks for the thoughts!

Ulair

**caravel** · 02-17-2006, 15:26

The single biggest factor during inquisitions is zeal, not so much the targets piety. With less than about 50% zeal your chances are greatly reduced. Bishops in the province also reduce your chances considerably.