Generals

**Hôjô Ujimara** · 01-29-2006, 13:21

Do you think this game will have generals like in MTW, so that the only commanders aren't in your faction's family? One of my favourite features in MTW was to get an 8-star son who wasn't an heir, then made him a normal general. I'd love to be able to do something like that again.

**Leet Eriksson** · 01-29-2006, 13:34

Well generals aged and died in the expansion too, i'm worried that CA would screw us and give our generals limited lives or give him crap offspring

**Martok** · 01-29-2006, 21:00

I have a feeling it will be a combination of both. You'll have the Rome-style family tree, but then there will also be Hero generals that suddenly appear. I don't have a clue, though, as to how CA would implement this.

**Bob the Insane** · 01-30-2006, 18:02

Well the whole family tree thing will work so much better for a medieval dynasty than it ever did for Rome...

Add in the BI enhancements of none family member generals and we are good.

I do miss the way Unit Captains where filled out in MTW with pictures and loyalty and stuff... But non-family generals could fullfill this role as long as they can be awarded titles and such. You could abandon the adoption thing and replace it with using your Princes to marry good generals into th family tree...

**Zatoichi** · 01-30-2006, 18:22

Originally Posted by Bob the Insane

You could abandon the adoption thing and replace it with using your Princes to marry good generals into th family tree...

Princesses surely? Unless you're envisaging a whole new bunch of vices and virtues!

**Martok** · 01-30-2006, 20:14

Originally Posted by Zatoichi

Princesses surely? Unless you're envisaging a whole new bunch of vices and virtues!

Heh. I wondered if I'd read that correctly or not....

**A.Saturnus** · 01-30-2006, 21:14

Originally Posted by Zatoichi

Princesses surely? Unless you're envisaging a whole new bunch of vices and virtues!

"100 ways to piss off the Pope"

**Bob the Insane** · 01-31-2006, 00:41

Originally Posted by Zatoichi

Princesses surely? Unless you're envisaging a whole new bunch of vices and virtues!

Oops!

**King Yngvar** · 02-01-2006, 12:13

Well generals aged and died in the expansion too, i'm worried that CA would screw us and give our generals limited lives or give him crap offspring

Limited lives is good, noone lives forever. However, 4 tuns a year would definately make them last longer

Anyway, I would like to see a family tree divided up in different branches, so that instead of making a general appear as one of your faction member's son when you adopt them, they will appear as the first member of a noble family. And when you right click a character, you will see which family he is a member of...

By the way, I hope we get the ability to choose who our princesses and princes are married to, etc..

I just hope we will be able to choose the faction heir.
The “–1 influence” fore a decision I never made really bothers me!

Indeed, I also have high hopes that we will have the ability to choose names for our family members.

**Ibn Munqidh** · 02-01-2006, 18:41

how would they implement this into eastern factions, where royalty usually had more than fifty sons, not counting the daughters..... you'd have a royal member dying every turn!

**Akka** · 02-02-2006, 00:34

I never liked the RTW family tree approach.
Much prefered the MTW method.
I hope they find an even better way to make things work, but I surely hope that there will be generals NOT tied to family. Most generals weren't part of a royal dynasty, after all, and I liked how each unit had its own personalized leader.

I'd like the option to be able to promote general, though, and so to be able to take a military genius from the town's militia unit, and make him a noble :p

**Bob the Insane** · 02-02-2006, 02:13

Originally Posted by Akka

I never liked the RTW family tree approach.
Much prefered the MTW method.
I hope they find an even better way to make things work, but I surely hope that there will be generals NOT tied to family. Most generals weren't part of a royal dynasty, after all, and I liked how each unit had its own personalized leader.

I'd like the option to be able to promote general, though, and so to be able to take a military genius from the town's militia unit, and make him a noble :p

I agree basically but it always bothered me when you got a really kick arse general leading a militia unit or something. I would like to see an expansion of the non-family member generals from BI to represent nobles...

For the royal family itself though I think the Family tree would work at it's best during the medieval period.

And as for chosing an heir, surely even by the early medieval it had become a widespread tradition for the first born son to inherit all?

**hoom** · 02-04-2006, 01:29

I'd like the option to be able to promote general, though, and so to be able to take a military genius from the town's militia unit, and make him a noble

I dunno, I rather liked my 9 valour town militia generals unit.
Seriously, I once had a 9 star town militia general with various valour bonuses so that the whole huge size unit was 9 valour, they cut through anything like a hot knife through butter