AoVaF maybe to be made for MTW2 instead...

[Agraes]

AOVAF is one of the mods I expect the most. It's a shame that the community didn't support it further. I don't want to see it 'dead' until MTW2.

I know how hard it is to get a full mod - ATW have been started for months but there still mountains of work to do, even with a strong team.

I wasn't that enjoyed with the announcement of MTW2 - simply because it implied that most of mods should be out before it... I hope I can play with AoVaF one day.

[Duke John]

Why don't you reduce the campaign map with the factions that you have finished? Something like Viking Invasion? The factions that you have finished, but do not fit in this campaign, can be used for historical/custom battles. At some point a modder might use it for another mini-campaign.

M2TW will be even more complex, so if you can't finish this mod for R:TW then I wouldn't put your hopes on M2TW.

Cheers,
Duke John

[Ragnor_Lodbrok]

In my personal opinion you shouldn't switch from BI to MTW2, it'd take too much time to convert all done work etc.

[Rodion Romanovich]

I think I've decided to make a release for BI then, but some help from the community will be needed. I'll post the research lists we have so far, and anyone who wants can comment and help out finishing them for us. Then we can do the coding. Hopefully there'll be more skinners showing up when the basic coding is done.

[edyzmedieval]

Good boy.

When can we expect a primary BETA?!

[Csatadi]

I'll post the research lists we have so far, and anyone who wants can comment and help out finishing them for us.

I hope Meneldil's request to the provinces will appear here, too. Thats very important. I hope the readers will help in the campaign map regions.

[Rodion Romanovich]

I had in mind posting all the research lists when they're semi-ready. Too bad I'm so busy IRL at the moment. Anyone else in the team: feel free to post the lists here because I'll be very busy for at least the rest of the week and maybe next week too.

[Germanicus91]

Why don't you reduce the campaign map with the factions that you have finished? Something like Viking Invasion? The factions that you have finished, but do not fit in this campaign, can be used for historical/custom battles. At some point a modder might use it for another mini-campaign.

I agree with the idea of trying to release a mini version of the full proposed AoVaF. So your fan base has something to get their teeth into into the full version of AoVaF comes out later and at your leisure.

How about a mini-map for Scandinavia and northern Europe, so we could have fun playing as the Vikings and Germanic nations?

I agree with others too that waiting for M2TW to come out may mean no release for AoVaF until 18 months or more into the future. And it looks like M2TW will be quite different to what is planned for AoVaF.

Just my two Euro-cents...

Keep up the good work! :-)

[ahlerich]

so i take it u guys continue for bi?
i follow this mod since november and its my favorite thing im waiting for for rtw..i however also allways was worried if it will ever finish because of all those (great) ideas that kept on beeing added so it seemed for me the mod content grew faster than its progress. this is no critic and i dont want to say im the smarty that knew it all the way, i just was worried. i finally after 3 month even made an account today to also reinforce u to continue and better release a lite version...with all the banners some units it still be a great addition to the other mods around

a few arguments against waiting for mtw2

-it might be released a few month later then estimaed now
-it might have a crappy ai in the beginning like rtw
-all the other arguments stated earlier from other ppl
-u might need a hell of a box to run mtw2 which some ppl might not have/ wanna buy right aways for mtw2
-mtw mods lived way longer then mtw(1)
-for rtw aovaf would be a gr8 mod that put a whole new time playable
-in mtw2 ur mod would just be a variation of the timeline {roughly} provided in the main game
-lots of your work might not be able to import and therefore useless

however its ur decision

somebody made a huge mao (2x as big then normal) in th twcenter. i donno if u noticed it. i donno if u guys have a map completed already. why not take that map cout out eg britain, scandinavia and europe to constantinople or so, add and rename provinces (there islots of space for many) and work with that as an platform and implement what u have there.
the idea of a viking invasion kinda thing sounds great to me too

im a little ungifted home modder that currently takes of the cream of every good mod out there to create my personel best of. i would find it sweet if u guys could offer ur units (model,texture,skin,sprites,ui,banners..)and ur map if u have a finished one, buildings etc for download so ppl can use it so or so.
hehe maybe that sounds selfish but if i had any skills/equippment for moddeling i d help out. unfortunately im useless. u think you could consider that?

[Rodion Romanovich]

Our map is one of the parts that is closest to ready ATM. Plus the adding of features isn't a big problem with so many coders, what we lack is mostly skinners (and research for some of the parts, but we're getting that now, it seems). So the mod will continue fine and we'll probably add many of the ideas, but some units will just have to use placeholder skins unless we can get a few more skinners. I don't know about the others but I'm personally remaining semi-idle until more skinners show up. I think the entire team would get back the "fighting morale" and continue working quite a lot if we'd get indications that it'll be possible to get the skins done for this mod. It's not nearly as tempting to do coding if the end-result will still only be a mod with placeholder skins. Anyway, I've not taken any offense but am merely informing you that your theories are unfortunately wrong, which means your solutions to the problems aren't possible... I think that if only a few skinners would show up this mod would get started and start progressing quicker than ever in a matter of days, and we'd be able to release some kind of beta in two months.

[Agraes]

You should have a look at TWC mod workshop, there are some new skinners that have recently register out of there, and searching after some work in mods

[Rodion Romanovich]

Thanks for the tip, I'll have a look at it