Well done Turkey!

[Byzantine Prince]

CNN - link

WOW what a movie!

In the most expensive Turkish movie ever made, American soldiers in Iraq crash a wedding and pump a little boy full of lead in front of his mother.

They kill dozens of innocent people with random machine-gun fire, shoot the groom in the head, and drag those left alive to Abu Ghraib prison -- where a Jewish doctor cuts out their organs, which he sells to rich people in New York, London and Tel Aviv.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!

[Sjakihata]

Nice, Im going to watch that.

[Don Corleone]

Well, it's a documentary. They tried to tone down as much as they could, but there's only so much white washing they can do for the US before crediblity begins to strain. They were very kind and left the 'feast of the muslim children', where a bunch of obese stockbrokers from Manhatten select the muslim child they will have broiled (by who else, a Jewish chef) and consume while using pages of the Quran for napkins.

[Kanamori]

Well, it's a documentary. They tried to tone down as much as they could, but there's only so much white washing they can do for the US before crediblity begins to strain. They were very kind and left the 'feast of the muslim children', where a bunch of obese stockbrokers from Manhatten select the muslim child they will have broiled (by who else, a Jewish chef) and consume while using pages of the Quran for napkins.

Damn, America rulez.

[KukriKhan]

The movie's American stars are Billy Zane, who plays a self-professed "peacekeeper sent by God," and Gary Busey as the Jewish-American doctor.

http://www.nndb.com/people/848/000022782/

Guess he couldn't find anymore domestic work after multiple busts here.

[solypsist]

i wonder if this movie will show on the airplane during long flights?

[Vladimir]

http://www.nndb.com/people/848/000022782/

Guess he couldn't find anymore domestic work after multiple busts here.

Religion: Born-Again Christian

WT...Heck? I knew this guy wasn't stable but this was a bit much.

[GoreBag]

"There isn't going to be a war over this," said Nefise Karatay, a Turkish model lounging on a sofa after the premiere. "Everyone knows that Americans have a good side. That's not what this is about."

Open and shut.

[Ronin]

well...there are some american action movies from the 80´s that aren´t far from this......

people will be morons....it´s just out nature.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

man... its showing in america as well

i wonder if turkish people feel the same way about british soldiers... if so that is quite worrying since my sister is serving in cyprus right now but i might actually go to watch the movie... it looks so ridiculously funny

[Lemur]

I have an overpowering desire to see this film. Nothing like bad propoganda to make a lemur laugh. I wouldn't pay to see it, however, so we'll leave it at that.

[Sjakihata]

Well, if it is really good propaganda, it will be run, one week after the premier, free in all cinemas across the USA, baby!

[ShadesPanther]

Gary Busey was good in Leathal weapon and Predator 2 then his career went downhill

[Devastatin Dave]

Nothing like a film to cause more hatred and devisiveness between the West and Middle East. BP may find this great, but i don't and I'm sure plenty of clear thinking individuals would agree, I would hope.
Can't wait to see how the radicals of the Left and Islam will use this.

[Don Corleone]

Nothing like a film to cause more hatred and devisiveness between the West and Middle East. BP may find this great, but i don't and I'm sure plenty of clear thinking individuals would agree, I would hope.
Can't wait to see how the radicals of the Left and Islam will use this.

I already told you, it's a documentary.

[Devastatin Dave]

I already told you, it's a documentary.

Oh, that's right... I'll have my small Muslim child medium rare please...

[KukriKhan]

well...there are some american action movies from the 80´s that aren´t far from this......

people will be morons....it´s just out nature.

Good point. The revenge/rescue genre of the 80's (Norris' "Missing in Action trilogy, Stallone's Rambo III homage to the Taliban, for examples) were popular world-wide because they struck a chord with people across many cultures.

[Don Corleone]

Come on now, Dave. I told you, the Turkish film makers were very easy on the USA. They left that part out. Don't go ruining their good deed by bringing it up again. Shhhh...

[Leet Eriksson]

L.E.N told me about that, says it has a pretty rediculous plot and is a continuation of a previous televsion series that is popular in turkey.

[Kongamato]

Revenge for the US making Midnight Express?

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

I think the real underlying point here is Billy Zane and Gary Busey's horrendously failed careers, which had been hanging in the balance for some time now.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Seriously, folks, after releasing "Show Girls" and "Ishtar" we had to expect someone would take revenge eventually.

We're also fortunate that none of the producers tumbled onto the fact that the USA is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Rothschilds...



Forget I said that last bit.

[Don Corleone]

All kidding aside, I'd like to ask LeftEyeNine about some of the assertions in the CNN article. Essentially, I got from the article that most Turks view this as fairly realistic, as over 50% of Turks view Americans as immoral, greedy, violent and rude. Apparenently, the #1 bestselling book is about a war between Turkey and the USA.

I always thought of Turkey and the US as allies. You've been a member of NATO for as long as NATO has been in existence. In many ways, I would have thought the relationship between the US and Turkey, admittedly strained over the past few years, was stronger than that of the US and some of it's other erstwhile allies (no offense Louis, Meneldil & Brenus) such as France, who ordered us out of their country decades ago. Does the average Turk have this much vitriol against the US? Do you dream of a violent conflict with us? Is there any hope for the relationship, or has Turkey decided to favor Iran and Syria's world view?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I second Don C's question. What gives?

[Vladimir]

Here's me sounding like an old man again: One must remember when dealing with the old world that these countries may not be nations (two very separate things). The US is a nation because we share a similar culture; Iraq is a country but not a nation which can be seen by the divisions between the Kurds, Shia and Sunni. Westerners think the "average Turk" is someone that lives within the borders of modern Turkey. Many different cultures reside within that territory (Armenians, Kurds, etc) and don't share the same cultural identity. I am curious as to which culture(s) and class(es) within Turkey feel this way.

[Komutan]

First of all let me clarify something that may be misunderstood: The hostility towards Americans in the film does not come from a religous point of view, but from a nationalist one. I have not seen the film, but I heard it does not side with religous terrorists. In one scene, an American hostage about to be executed is saved.

The thing which motivated this film is an incident, where Americans arrested Turkish soldiers in Irak. The way the Turkish soldiers were treated angered many Turks.

I don't wish to see the film. It is made from the viewpoint of Turkish right wingers and according to what I read all Americans in the film are evil. I can understand criticizing USA or fighting US soldiers, but demonizing a nation is something I cant stand(like it was done to Turks in Midnight Express). On the other hand, Americans who enjoyed watching "evil Russians" killed in Rambo and other similar films should watch this film as a reflection.

[Byzantine Prince]

where a bunch of obese stockbrokers from Manhatten select the muslim child they will have broiled

mmmmmmmm... circumcised penis must be delicious.














To the mods

[Louis VI the Fat]

Essentially, I got from the article that most Turks view this as fairly realistic, as over 50% of Turks view Americans as immoral, greedy, violent and rude.

I always thought of Turkey and the US as allies. In many ways, I would have thought the relationship between the US and Turkey, admittedly strained over the past few years, was stronger than that of the US and some of it's other erstwhile allies (no offense Louis, Meneldil & Brenus) such as France, who ordered us out of their country decades ago.

No offense taken of course - you know we French never cease to love Americans.
Here's the poll that article quoted from:





We know you're all decent, hardworking and honest folk, not greedy at all. Just a bit rude and rather violent.

[RabidGibbon]

My knowledge of the middle east is rather limited, and just looking at the plot shows the film has no basis in fact, but wouldn't a turkish special forces team going from turkey into Iraq find itself in the Kurdish bit of Iraq?

You know, the bit of Iraq that is dead happy to find americans protecting them from all those Sunnis and Sheities and chemical weapon attacks, and has virtually no insurgency problems and ummm, hate's the Turkish government for occupying other parts of Kurdistan?

[GoreBag]

Louis, there's something wrong with your polls. Everyone knows that Canadians are immoral pacifists. Also, I was under the impression that Canadians were the most polite people on the planet (old joke).