Close Combat

**Lechev** · 02-09-2006, 16:59

Originally Posted by GoreBag

Old news, I know, but I recently got my hands on Close Combat II: A Bridge too Far and I've been rather pleased, if a little frustrated with it. Is anyone else here familiar with the series?

CC1 :- The Dday invasion of Normandy ( love those cut scenes whenever u completed a campaign winning or loosing )

CC2 :- Operation Market Garden ( u will play 3 seperate campaign. Armham(sp?), Nimigen and Einhoven )

CC3:- Operation Babarossa ( U will love this if u r into tank battle! )

CC4:- Battle of the Bulge ( good but too linear IMHO )

CC5 :- Same operation as CC1, you have more control on the strategic decision but no cinematic cut scenes.

Close Combat is the very first game which i had played on-line. The community is big and they also have ladder games.

**scotchedpommes** · 02-22-2006, 22:49

Been playing Close Combat for years, somewhat dismayed upon realisation
that I had overlooked this thread. [Currently still enjoying CC Stalingrad.]

**[DnC]** · 02-24-2006, 15:33

The first time I played a CC game was the demo of the first one. It was truly great! The only one I ended up buying was CC4, although I do wish to play the other ones! Perhaps I should try and look where to find 'em.

I liked that morale was present in the games, seeing some of your men crawling away from the shelling was awesome. It's just a great series.

I tried one of the Combat Mission demo's, but I couldn't get it started. I heard it's a really good series though.

Originally Posted by Lechev

CC2 :- Operation Market Garden ( u will play 3 seperate campaign. Armham(sp?), Nimigen and Einhoven )

Arnhem, Nijmegen and Eindhoven

Darn those odd foreign names éh?

**Puzz3D** · 02-24-2006, 18:20

CC2 is a good one if you can find it. CC3 was more oriented to armor fighting, but as I recall there is a mod which brings the infantry closer to its historical level of effectiveness relative to armor.

**BelgradeWar** · 02-24-2006, 19:32

I really love this series...Played countless hours...still play it when I get the time - CC3.
CC3 is by far the most realistical WWII game ever made, IMO. Excellent campaign, challenging missions, grat number of units...just a great game.
CC4 is rather bad , because the AI and the whole challenge was lowered in order not to allow Americans to lose - defending side has been vastly favourised.

CC5 is better, but a bit buggy. Still I've enjoyed it.

CC6 was my great wish, bu it's gone down the drain...damn...

**Slyspy** · 02-27-2006, 21:38

Originally Posted by BelgradeWar

I really love this series...Played countless hours...still play it when I get the time - CC3.
CC3 is by far the most realistical WWII game ever made, IMO. Excellent campaign, challenging missions, grat number of units...just a great game.
CC4 is rather bad , because the AI and the whole challenge was lowered in order not to allow Americans to lose - defending side has been vastly favourised.

CC5 is better, but a bit buggy. Still I've enjoyed it.

CC6 was my great wish, bu it's gone down the drain...damn...

If you think CC is the most realistic WWII game around then you haven't tried the Combat Mission games. Look past the dodgy graphics though!

**Black Prince** · 02-27-2006, 21:49

I've played some of the Close Combat games and definitely the best thing about them is the morale system - the blighters just won't leave the foxhole and charge the enemy tanks sometimes, no matter how many times you try!!!

Actually realistic I think, unlike a lot of games.

**Lechev** · 03-02-2006, 22:16

Originally Posted by Black Prince

I've played some of the Close Combat games and definitely the best thing about them is the morale system - the blighters just won't leave the foxhole and charge the enemy tanks sometimes, no matter how many times you try!!!

Actually realistic I think, unlike a lot of games.

I love those voice acting...

1st Soldier: Incoming!!!!
2nd Soldier: Agggggh.....
3rd Soldier: Sgt!!!
4th Soldier: Medic!!!(sometime they might yell "Stretcher" )
5th Soldier: I can't take it.....
6th Soldier: "Step up and fight soldier!"

**Kraxis** · 03-02-2006, 22:50

Originally Posted by BelgradeWar

CC4 is rather bad , because the AI and the whole challenge was lowered in order not to allow Americans to lose - defending side has been vastly favourised.

Sure? I found the Germans to be horribly easy to win with. Generally I managed to average out with 3:1 losses in men and 5:1 losses in tanks.

I really liked stalking tanks with Panzerschreck teams, they just seemed a bit better than in CC5.

**BelgradeWar** · 03-02-2006, 23:05

Originally Posted by Kraxis

Sure? I found the Germans to be horribly easy to win with. Generally I managed to average out with 3:1 losses in men and 5:1 losses in tanks.

I really liked stalking tanks with Panzerschreck teams, they just seemed a bit better than in CC5.

Well, the main catch is this - there is the catch that when opponents force morale gets too low, they lose the battle. In CC4, the battle really ends but nothing rally changes in the strategical map - you need too fight again! This means you need to take care to win and not to demoralise your enemy to the end...stupid...

But, this is extremely helpful when you're outpowered and outgunned an caught by surprise - as the Americans were. You can wiggle yourself out of very tough situations this way. Plus, the American AT guns are way too powerful. Plus, the opponent strategic AI is dubious, at best.

Anyway, I didn't play with Germans. Never really do. I guess when a human play the Germans it's much historicaly realistical, because a human player knows how to exploit German advantages. And the AI is at the other side.