Tell me this is a bug... or the AI cheat baaaaaad!

**booker** · 02-06-2006, 12:16

Ok, this is the last post of the day i promise.

I spent the whole night playing EB, and to be honnest i like it a lot, but there are some things i saw that make me feel dissapointed.

This is one screen:

http://server3.uploadit.org/files/booker-eb.JPG

What i don´t like?... I´m on the bottom, almost, on every category.. i didn´t try playing with top factions but i´, certain i won´t be there if i do.

Why we can´t be 1 more faction?

and this make me quit the game...
well, actually was a CTD but i was close to quitting anyway.

http://server3.uploadit.org/files/booker-EB2.JPG

How is posible? i earn like 200m per turn and the AI can build this army? and look those equipement!

I do know the AI cheat on VH, to be honest, i never ever experience this kind of cheating.. what happen?

**LorDBulA** · 02-06-2006, 12:46

You have brain, AI have cash.

Dont get bother by CA faction rating.
If you have the same resources as AI then game is not fun becouse as i said you have brain but AI dont.

**booker** · 02-06-2006, 14:00

Good reason

I guess we can´t ask to get fair condition then....

btw, this happen on vanilla as well? coz i never saw this Huge difference between human and AI, even on VH levels.

**Cheexsta** · 02-06-2006, 14:11

This is a product of the background script. If you're willing to wade through tons of code, you can probably lower the amounts yourself, but really, the AI needs all the help it can get.

**Zero1** · 02-06-2006, 15:29

Yeah, unfortunately the AI seems to be beyond idiotic, dumb as the proverbial rock. The only way for it to be able to compete with the human player and actually make it challenging is to help it out quite a bit, and sometimes even WITH all the added help and resources, the AI manages to sit there and do nothing all game.

**Thorn Is** · 02-06-2006, 19:35

I've never experienced an AI with that much cash before. But only play on Med. Is that the reason?

**booker** · 02-07-2006, 06:11

Originally Posted by Cheexsta

This is a product of the background script. If you're willing to wade through tons of code, you can probably lower the amounts yourself, but really, the AI needs all the help it can get.

Well i went back to Vanilla, and i did play same lenght and i didn´t see this crazy stuff on it... i even played RTR, wich i´m playing right now, and same thing.

I don´t want to play a game were all factions are against me, i don´t ask for even resources, but at lease "hide" them...

All factions have full stacks army and you have to disband the few units you have, and even then you earn like 200mnari per turn.... It´s not realistc and it´s not fun either.

For me this is too much i know the AI need tons of help but by doing this you are unbalancing the game on other aspects... anyways,i´ll give a shot when this get released, but it seems dev want to go to other route....

**Malrubius** · 02-07-2006, 07:04

Originally Posted by booker

I don´t want to play a game were all factions are against me, i don´t ask for even resources, but at lease "hide" them...

You can't really hide how much money the AI factions have. One of our goals was to make the game a fun challenge, and we think we've done that. One way we've done that is by providing cash infusions to the AI factions. In the original game, you wouldn't see that, they'd just go bankrupt and quit doing anything until you rolled over them. That's not our idea of a fun challenge.

The amount of money the AI receives through our background script is still being refined. We want to make sure they have enough, so it's a careful balancing act. That's where your feedback comes in!

**=E.T=** · 02-06-2006, 20:39

Originally Posted by LorDBulA

You have brain, AI have cash.

Don't get bother by CA faction rating.
If you have the same resources as AI then game is not fun because as i said you have brain but AI don't.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Clear! no,...Cristal!

**Dayve** · 02-06-2006, 22:52

It was like that in vanilla also... CA spent more time on graphics than... Well, anything else, and we have to suffer because of it. The only way the AI can ever be even a slight challenge is if they cheat.. And like someone said, they still do rediculous things even then...

Just as an example, and this is the funniest thing i have ever seen... A while back in vanilla, me being the Brutii, the Scipii lost Messana and had only Capua left... Many turns later i noticed they still only had Capua... I had a look to see wtf was up... What did i see? 5 full stack armies stoof outside Capua... They had built so many armies that they couldn't afford a fleet to do anything with them.

**2ltben** · 02-07-2006, 05:33

It's not so much a challenge for me as it is

1.) Attack and take the weakest border city, declare war on rebels.
2.) Watch as 5 full stacks invade my two settlements, having two army stacks with only 3-5 units per army.
3.) Lose.

It's either that or suffer -12000 profit per turn while having just enough of an army to stay on the offensive while keeping my cities alive and fed while the five nations attacking me refuse to a ceasefire, sacrificing any notion of a navy(making my three settlements on islands fend for themselves).

Even Medium is kicking the crap out of me