What is this "buildings" problem with 1.5?

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 02-07-2006, 02:16

I'm still trying to get 1.5 onto my cpu (darndest time that), but I'm wondering what folks keep refer to as a killer problem for buildings and 1.5. What is the issue (or where is it being discussed even) and has anyone found ways around it? I've asked elsewhere, but I suppose this is the best place to pose the question.

Thanks for any help!

**Dromikaites** · 02-07-2006, 17:41

There is a problem with some country-specific versions of 1.5. You can't add a new building tree because the game CTDs when building the .rwm file. However there is a cure for that: you need to create building cards for those new buildings and place them in the apropriate culture folders in the \ui section.

**Dol Guldur** · 02-07-2006, 18:10

That would explain why I've never had any rwm generation problems - if it is country-specific. Which countries though? UK and Norway seem OK :)

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 02-07-2006, 18:36

You would think that adding more "redirects" (for the entire culture, like carthaginian redirects to egyptian for example) for those building graphics would get around this entirely though.

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 02-12-2006, 23:26

I'm wondering if anyone knows of a place where issues or problems with 1.5 (or differences that modders should know about) is kept. Is there a thread like that or a discussion?

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edit: I'm also getting some very weird results with hidden resources in 1.5. Like basically they don't work. If I say a building requires hidden_resource not_here - and then no provinces have it (or for testing purposes I put it in one province that I'm not using here) - then I shouldn't be able to build that building - but I can build it anywhere, by any faction. What in the world have I done wrong here?...

**Monkwarrior** · 02-13-2006, 01:58

Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou

edit: I'm also getting some very weird results with hidden resources in 1.5. Like basically they don't work. If I say a building requires hidden_resource not_here - and then no provinces have it (or for testing purposes I put it in one province that I'm not using here) - then I shouldn't be able to build that building - but I can build it anywhere, by any faction. What in the world have I done wrong here?...

That's strange. For me, they work exactly in the same way as in RTW 1.2.

I mainly use hidden resources for recruitment, but also I have a dumm resource, that is not present in any region. It is used to make a building "unbuildable", and it is only created through script.

I haven't observed any weird consequence.

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 02-13-2006, 02:50

Well, that sounds promising at least. I was getting really worried. I thought I did some simple tests, but even the "dummy" resource we were using doesn't seem to work. Maybe a limit to them was put in place that is screwin' with them or something. Thanks for the reply though - and if anyone else knows anything about these issues, I'd love to hear more about it.

edit: This sure is strange though. I edit edb.txt to have a simple building with this requirement line:

Code:

        precursortype1 requires factions { all, }  and hidden_resource nothere

I put "nothere" in the list of hidden resources at the top of EDB.txt also. Then I put "nothere" in one province in descr_regions.txt just to be sure. So every other province does *not* have it. And this is *not* buildable in 1.2. But now, in 1.5, I can build it everywhere. Every single province. What in the world happened?

**Monkwarrior** · 02-13-2006, 09:30

I cannot find any apparent mistake. Just compare with the entry in my EDB file:

wall_tech requires factions { barbarian, eastern, thrace, numidia, } and hidden_resource muralla

"muralla" is the dummy hidden resource, placed in the first line of the file

hidden_resources sparta rome italy romans gauls celts iberians greeks africans italians raros muralla

and not present in any region of descr_regions.txt

As possible tests I would suggest:
- Put the names of factions or cultures in the requirement
- Is there one or two blank spaces after }? (I don't know if this is important)
- Try to rename the hidden resource

I'd like to be of more help, but...