So who's gonna replace the Yuezhi?

**oudysseos** · 02-10-2006, 00:47

I don't know if they are- but there is another thread on which the conclusion seems to be that they weren't present in our time period. And I think one of the dev team said that they're out- but I'm not sure. Who do you think should replace them if that is the case?

**khelvan** · 02-10-2006, 00:53

There are very few surprises left in EB - this may be one of them, the identity of who replace the Yuezhi.

**oudysseos** · 02-10-2006, 01:05

I vote for the Hasmoneans/Judeans. Totally the wrong time I know- didn't Judah Maccabbee (sp?) kick Seleucid butt around 160 BC? But still I think a small but strong faction between the Seleucids and the Ptolemies would be interesting. Phalanx vs. Phalanx can be pretty dull sometimes. Though I have no idea what kind of units a Judean faction would have- probbably Phalanx. Maybe Zealots. Lots of light infantry skirmishers anyways.

**paullus** · 02-10-2006, 03:28

Too bad they were usually controlled by one or the other successor state. Not only were they at a crossroads, but they apparently made pretty darn good soldiers. Not sure who I would suggest instead though...how about the Galatians!!! I could even help with research for them.

Speaking of things that are presently hidden, any chance we'll see any previews of new skins any time before the next patch arrives?

**Big_John** · 02-10-2006, 03:30

the Aztecs.

**VandalCarthage** · 02-10-2006, 04:13

So who's gonna replace the Yuezhi?
Or is it a secret?

Yes

I'm sure you guys will all really like the variety they add though

Though I have no idea what kind of units a Judean faction would have- probbably Phalanx. Maybe Zealots. Lots of light infantry skirmishers anyways.

Too bad they were usually controlled by one or the other successor state. Not only were they at a crossroads, but they apparently made pretty darn good soldiers.

Unfortunately the Jews were firmly under the control of the Ptolemies or the Seleukids at any given time, but our Ptolemaic faction had them under-represented. I've amended the "Ioudeaoi Taxeis" unit's description to better reflect the great later importance of Jews in the Ptolemaic administration. In 175, Onias IV had been deposed as High Priest by the Seleukids, leading his son Onias III to lead a fairly substantial group of Judeans into Ptolemaic Egypt, where Ptolemy VI Philometor allowed them to settle in Leontopolis, in the Fayyum (Krokodilopolis in particular), and even in Alexandreia (in which they actually self-administered a private section of the city). He and an aide, Dositheos, were actually given extremely high positions in the Ptolemaic government; Josephus even claims that they were charged with the administration of the entire kingdom and it's army... even Onias two sons, Ananias and Chalkias had military commands. So, the new unit description will hopefully reflect some of this influence.

I'm also editing the Hebrew ethnicity the Ptolemies have access to, and I'm hoping I'll be able to tie it to a reform, so that it can become more common later on. It'll also eventually have a lot of associative traits, relating to what the Greeks called the 'Cult of Yahweh'

**fallen851** · 02-10-2006, 05:02

Originally Posted by Big_John

the Aztecs.

Man you ruined my good joke of the day.

Oh well.

**Big_John** · 02-10-2006, 05:09

Originally Posted by fallen851

Man you ruined my good joke of the day.

Oh well.

it's one of the few things i'm good at.

**Scott** · 02-12-2006, 02:07

Originally Posted by Big_John

the Aztecs.

It's not going to be the Aztecs for a very good reason(other then they lived on the other side of the world).They didn't exist in 270 bc.They started in the 13th centrury A.D. but not in 270 bc.But the mayans lived in 1000 bc

Could you put these faction in the mod:
The Indus valley civiltion
the aliens that built stone henge(please put them in they had a great impact on the history of the roman impire)

Samnium
Cantabri
Arverni
Sequani
Suebi
Belgae
Helvetii
Parisii

**Ludens** · 02-12-2006, 13:41

Originally Posted by Scott

Could you put these faction in the mod:
The Indus valley civiltion
the aliens that built stone henge(please put them in they had a great impact on the history of the roman impire)

Samnium
Cantabri
Arverni
Sequani
Suebi
Belgae
Helvetii
Parisii

Are you aware of the existance of the faction-limit? The game cannot accomodate more than 21 factions, despite the efforts of many modders.

**Ranika** · 02-15-2006, 05:19

Originally Posted by Scott

Arverni
Sequani
Suebi
Belgae
Helvetii
Parisii

Arverni are already in, the Sequani are their subjects. Suebi are the Sweboz. The Belgae were seriously considered but not taken. The Helveti were subjects of Noricum who later migrated (they'd not actually be indepedent at the outset of EB, they'd be part of Noricum), so Noricum would be possible, but was incredibly tiny, though they would have some neat stuff. The Parisi were subjects of the Aedui in Gaul, and the British Parisi were tiny and severely overshadowed by the Brigantes.