Worst. Commander. Ever. (or: How to beat third STW tutorial)

**Ludens** · 02-10-2006, 20:23

I don't win this one always either, but I found that the place where the archers start is rather bad. It seems that the incline actually blocks the archer's line-of-sight or something, as I can only take out two yari's at best. I always run my archers to the peak, stretch them out to two ranks and let them fire. When the enemy gets within charge distance (you hear a horn blow to signal they are charging), I counter-charge. I do not use wedge as it reduces defence and a wide, thin formation is usually better at a straightforward melee.

To be honest, this tutorial battle has little to do with skill, more with luck. The next one is ridiculously easy: you have to storm arquebusiers while it rains. They will never move, not even the one lying in ambush. The last one is rather though, but I recommend playing it several times. Once you can beat it consistently, you are well prepared for the campaign.

Welcome to the Org,

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**Just A Girl** · 02-10-2006, 20:35

Welcome to the org.

Im sure the helpfull advice already given here is more than i could tell you about the tutorials.

So im simply going to invite you to join us in my servers foyer for MP games when you can :)

You can read the STW MP section. In the sword do jo,
to find out how to manualy configure your game to connect to the foyer.
"Shogun Tw Probs??? Read here 1st" thread should be a good place to start.

Or you can simply download.
ShambleSTW.exe from my web page,
(link is in my sig)
Which will configure your game for my server.

We then arange games In the STW MP section,
in the thread called.
"im in the foyer now"
We also use msn to arange games.

I hope to see you in the foyer some time soon.
People are freindly there and very helpfull.

they will (on avarage) give you helpfull hints and tips.

So like i said.
Hope to see you in the foyer soon.

**Cowhead418** · 02-11-2006, 05:40

IIRC, the unit you face is a Yari Ashigaru, right? Don't Samurai Archers beat the YA in melee? At least they have in my experience. Couldn't you just fire arrows at them, kill a few and then beat them in melee pretty easily? Obviously not, considering what some of you have said.

**econ21** · 02-11-2006, 14:05

Originally Posted by Cowhead418

IIRC, the unit you face is a Yari Ashigaru, right?

No, they are Yari Samurai. It is not an easy tutorial. I think part of the point of it is to show you that those archers are still Samurai and are pretty decent with their swords. With a few minor advantages - charging downhill, enemy morale lowered by missile losses/tiredness etc - they can take on YS and win. The tutorial also vividly shows you the impact of bad weather on archery.

But I agree with Ludens, I tend to pull the archers back, further up the hill. Then shoot, charge and pray. Hadn't thought about the thin formation but it sounds like a good idea.

**Cowhead418** · 02-15-2006, 03:19

Originally Posted by Simon Appleton

No, they are Yari Samurai. It is not an easy tutorial. I think part of the point of it is to show you that those archers are still Samurai and are pretty decent with their swords. With a few minor advantages - charging downhill, enemy morale lowered by missile losses/tiredness etc - they can take on YS and win. The tutorial also vividly shows you the impact of bad weather on archery.

But I agree with Ludens, I tend to pull the archers back, further up the hill. Then shoot, charge and pray. Hadn't thought about the thin formation but it sounds like a good idea.

Yes, my mistake. I just played the tutorial again and lost. I hadn't noticed that it was supposed to be difficult because the first time I played it I won pretty handily. It seems that luck plays a large factor.

**Crian** · 02-20-2006, 15:42

I had a little trouble with this one too... I think it was the 3rd try when I won.

March the archers up a little higher, spread them in a thin line, then when the Yari are close enough, close up on a wedge then charge. After that it was all luck. That's how I remember it.