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Is it the death of the internet, the last true bastion of free speech in the world? If so, we have to fight the corporations from taking control of it, and 'screening out undesirable information'. They (the corporations) have already taken over everything else in this world, and they shouldn't be allowed to do things like this.
'First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.'
Pastor Martin Niemöller
Long live the intarwebs!
Is it the death of the internet, the last true bastion of free speech in the world? If so, we have to fight the corporations from taking control of it, and 'screening out undesirable information'. They (the corporations) have already taken over everything else in this world, and they shouldn't be allowed to do things like this.
'First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.'
Pastor Martin Niemöller
Long live the intarwebs!
I saw this. Not sure if it's real though. Any one know?
Originally Posted by discovery1:
I saw this. Not sure if it's real though. Any one know?
On the site i got this link from, some people said you can google it and get info on it from other sites. I saw this. Not sure if it's real though. Any one know?
Here, i googled it.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29398
http://www.freepress.net/netfreedom/
I'm sure if bothered trying, i could get more.
And if the nefarious schemes of the US corporate giants go ahead, who knows, maybe 'undesirable' stuff such as the Backroom and the babe thread would get screened out?
All these plans to turn the internet into a mirror of the major TV networks all seem to end at the US border. All the companies invovled are making these plans for the US market. So in the short term US web-serfers get shafted and the rest of us have to wait and see.
Originally Posted by lars573:
All these plans to turn the internet into a mirror of the major TV networks all seem to end at the US border. All the companies invovled are making these plans for the US market. So in the short term US web-serfers get shafted and the rest of us have to wait and see.
Took the words out of my mouth. Until the likes of NTL, AOL and BT start suggesting stuff like this I'll sit back and enjoy net freedom All these plans to turn the internet into a mirror of the major TV networks all seem to end at the US border. All the companies invovled are making these plans for the US market. So in the short term US web-serfers get shafted and the rest of us have to wait and see.
Originally Posted by currywurry:
And if the nefarious schemes of the US corporate giants go ahead, who knows, maybe 'undesirable' stuff such as the Backroom and the babe thread would get screened out?
Do not underestimate the power of the porn industry.And if the nefarious schemes of the US corporate giants go ahead, who knows, maybe 'undesirable' stuff such as the Backroom and the babe thread would get screened out?
Originally Posted by Viking:
Do not underestimate the power of the porn industry.
Do not underestimate the power of the porn industry.
Wise words mate
Originally Posted by Sovereign:
Took the words out of my mouth. Until the likes of NTL, AOL and BT start suggesting stuff like this I'll sit back and enjoy net freedom
That's what i'm worried about though. Because if no one bothers stopping these nefarious plans go ahead and British companies watch and see how much money the US Corps rake in, maybe they'll start thinking it's a good idea.Took the words out of my mouth. Until the likes of NTL, AOL and BT start suggesting stuff like this I'll sit back and enjoy net freedom
And i am not paying extortionate prices for a 'Platinum' account just so i can recieve 5+ more emails than a 'Gold' account. I'm quite happy with my free email and paying £15 a month for internet access to anything i want, thank you very much!
It's a free market economy. If they tried to pull something like this everyone would flock to some alternative company.
They are gambling that average Joe's will be sheep and go with there regulated family friendly spoon-fed disnetized internet. It's worked for AOL for years. You know sacrifice freedom for security.
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro:
It's a free market economy. If they tried to pull something like this everyone would flock to some alternative company.
Yep, the internet still belongs to the geeks It's a free market economy. If they tried to pull something like this everyone would flock to some alternative company.
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro:
It's a free market economy. If they tried to pull something like this everyone would flock to some alternative company.
I definately would. So what if the alternative company was a slightly slower connection? As long as i can do whatever i want, recieve as many mails as i want, i'm happy.It's a free market economy. If they tried to pull something like this everyone would flock to some alternative company.
It won't happen in Britain. The corperations don't have enough power here to pull it off.
Originally Posted by Wigferth Ironwall:
It won't happen in Britain. The corperations don't have enough power here to pull it off.
Nah, there is still a small chance of it happening here. For the US it's not a question of 'if' but 'when'.It won't happen in Britain. The corperations don't have enough power here to pull it off.
I guess it's time to revolt. Come, we've got innocent corporation workers to sacrifice.
Seriously though, I hate corporations, I hate being forced to be dependent on anything.
Seriously though, I hate corporations, I hate being forced to be dependent on anything.
As long as the Russian Federation exists im not worried a bit.
Hellenes
Hellenes
It rather brings old-school hacking back to mind. We'll simply need to find alternatives to your typical ISP.
Originally Posted by lars573:
They are gambling that average Joe's will be sheep and go with there regulated family friendly spoon-fed disnetized internet. It's worked for AOL for years. You know sacrifice freedom for security.
Actually, AOL has been doing pretty horribly for quote awhile hasnt it? ISPs often try to bundle software/services with their access and from what I've seen, no one is interested in it or uses it. My ISP came with browser addons and some MSN subscription garbage, ect. I never even looked at it. I dont even use my ISP provided email. People wont pay for services they dont want.They are gambling that average Joe's will be sheep and go with there regulated family friendly spoon-fed disnetized internet. It's worked for AOL for years. You know sacrifice freedom for security.
I've been on the Internet for about 15yrs now and you constantly hear about how something new and insiduous is going to destroy it- Im not particularly worried.
My household uses a bundle. But our ISP is the local cable company (which may or may not be the local branch of a national telecom giant). It's the watch/surf/talk bundle. We get phone cable and internet service for $100 a month. 10 gig pipeline, with indiviuals getting 10 mbps.
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