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    Go to http://www.oeaw.ac.at/kal/agm/index.htm for links to musical fragments from classical greek sources. Very cool, if weird. According to some quick internet research, the fragment from Limenios may actually be one of the battlefield hymns to Apollo. No words, though.
    οἵη περ φύλλων γενεὴ τοίη δὲ καὶ ἀνδρῶν.
    Even as are the generations of leaves, such are the lives of men.
    Glaucus, son of Hippolochus, Illiad, 6.146



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    Quote Originally Posted by oudysseos
    Go to http://www.oeaw.ac.at/kal/agm/index.htm for links to musical fragments from classical greek sources. Very cool, if weird. According to some quick internet research, the fragment from Limenios may actually be one of the battlefield hymns to Apollo. No words, though.
    It sounds terrible on MIDI. It would sound a lot better on an ancient greek flute or something. If you listen to modern greek pop music, you can hear some flute which i believed is something they have always used.

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    There was a CD of ancient greek music with original instrumentation offered somewhere but it didn't have any sample available. We have an excellent music research library here in Dublin- when I have a day off I'll pop in and check it out.
    οἵη περ φύλλων γενεὴ τοίη δὲ καὶ ἀνδρῶν.
    Even as are the generations of leaves, such are the lives of men.
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    You could be a great help to the team if you sent the music to EB. They would be able to use the music as a template and make composing the songs much easier.



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    You could be a great help to the team if you sent the music to EB. They would be able to use the music as a template and make composing the songs much easier.



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    You could be a great help to the team if you sent the music to EB. They would be able to use the music as a template and make composing the songs much easier.



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    You could be a great help to the team if you sent the music to EB. They would be able to use the music as a template and make composing the songs much easier.



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    Default Re: Listen to The Paean (sort of)

    quadruple post!!! I've never seen that!

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    Default Re: Listen to The Paean (sort of)

    THese are the two CDs that I have been able to find, however I don't have them on my computer as the Music Library won't let me take them out. If you go to http://classics.uc.edu/music/ you can listen to vocal samples that sound pretty good: better than the midi samples from my previous post this thread. I will keep working on it.


    Music of Ancient Greece. Christodoulos Halaris and instrumental ensemble, vocal soloists. Orata Arangm. 1992. (CD)

    Music of the Ancient Greeks by De Organographia (Gayle Neuman, Philip Neuman, William Gavin.) Pandourion Records. (CD) 1997.
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    What the!?! 4 posts? Damn, the internet was so slow, in my impatience, I pressed the button several times, and that happens. Damn.



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    Default Re: Listen to The Paean (sort of)

    Quote Originally Posted by Foot
    quadruple post!!! I've never seen that!

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    And I thought my double posts were a statement...hmm.

    Quadruple post is excellent for those moments when you really, really, really, really want to get your point across.
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    i find all this very interesting...i tried jamming out some of the pieces, but they seem just a little off. Maybe its the modulating tetrachords, or maybe im just too high(or not enough).

    good info, oudysseos, keep us updated if theres more

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    I've read somewhere that pythagoras worked with quarter tones and eigth tones (not 100% on the latter), which are the roots of current eastern music. Turkish in particular.

    Buttt.....did the ancients use this as well? it seems from those papari that only tones and semitones are used.

    any clue, anyone?

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    Default Re: Listen to The Paean (sort of)

    Don't know about tonality- but the music on the papyri is monodic and some have assumed that there was no harmonizing- I'm not convinced. Harmonies may have been improvised.
    οἵη περ φύλλων γενεὴ τοίη δὲ καὶ ἀνδρῶν.
    Even as are the generations of leaves, such are the lives of men.
    Glaucus, son of Hippolochus, Illiad, 6.146



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