Comment on the Campaign Map

[oudysseos]

I have always been under the impression that the 'Rebel Faction' was not meant to be taken as a monolith, but rather as a necessary evil in that not every settlement can be represented as an independent faction. I never think as I'm playing that the rebel city I'm attacking in italy is the same political unit as the rebel city I'm attacking in the crimea- it's just a part of the game engine that we have to live with. The alternative I suppose would be to have all the factions start with loads of cities and immediately have to go to war with each other in order to expand. The 'Rebel' cities just give you some manoevering room, game-play wise. I've never thought that it's meant to represent a single unified faction.

By 'dubious' I meant that it just seems as if we're stretching a bit to insert a faction where there wasn't really one, just for the sake of game-play and balance. That's fine I guess, I was just trying to comment that maybe it's not necessary to have the full 21 factions- maybe the balance is fine as it is, even without the Yuezhi.

[LorDBulA]

but I still wonder if the Yuezhi have to be replaced at all- I mean do you absolutely have to have 21 factions?

Well if we could have more we would have more then 21.
I mean there are lots of kingdoms/citystates that are not represented becouse of faction limit.
Dont wory there is planty of candidates for Yuezhi slot.

[Ludens]

I have always been under the impression that the 'Rebel Faction' was not meant to be taken as a monolith, but rather as a necessary evil in that not every settlement can be represented as an independent faction. I never think as I'm playing that the rebel city I'm attacking in italy is the same political unit as the rebel city I'm attacking in the crimea- it's just a part of the game engine that we have to live with. The alternative I suppose would be to have all the factions start with loads of cities and immediately have to go to war with each other in order to expand. The 'Rebel' cities just give you some manoevering room, game-play wise. I've never thought that it's meant to represent a single unified faction.

You are right, but it's still artificial. The rebels share trade and income. They do not fight amongst each other, or go into any complex political interactions with the player, so your comment surprised me a bit. It was not as if there was a shortage of powerful factions in this theatre, and the current faction list is certainly not the only possibility even when striving for maximal historical accuracy within the limits of the game.

[QwertyMIDX]

We have at least 25 or so factions we could add with venturing into historically dubious territory (at least no more dubious than Baktria or Armenia, which aren't proper indepdent states at the start, although the system we have worked out for them is pretty good).