Satanism as philosophy

[AntiochusIII]

AntiochusIII, yes, I am a moral absolutist, which I believe I stated above. Just so long as you recognise the fact. It is relevant though because its the core of my problem, Satan represents evil. He may be god's servant but he's there to lead you off the path.

Ah, then I guess we cannot continue our debate, pleasant and unoffensive as it may. For we have two underlying different warrants -- assumptions. Yours is the view that only look at Satan from a Christian perspective. Me, I look at them, as A. Saturnus stated, from the Satanists' point of view, in which, in and of itself, there are many. Occultists, moral relativists, satirists, noncomformists, and so on.

The Loki debate depends on who you believe, the main division being Icelandic and Danish, IIRC. In general the Icelandic is considered both older and less corrupted but there is no absolute definitive version.

That clarifies enough, then. Even Loki himself is relative.

I happen to know quite a number of goths and not all of them are teenagers. Many of them don't care whether they confirm to anything either.

Ah, but I look at Goths from the only perspective physically available for me, the American High School one. I know there are "Goths" in many age groups but the high school one is, more often than not, what the stereotype is.

And telling me satanists have nothing to do with the "christian satan" and then telling me they call themselves satanists to piss off christians is just, weird and contradictory.

The word "Satan" by modern understanding is varied, and what Christianity contributes to the societal perspective of things does not necessarily mean Christianity owns it and that what it was is now what it is. "Satan" might be a concept, at least in the West, derived originally from the religion(s), but as the concept evolved its purpose changed, at least among those who "change" with it, such as Lavey's point of view. It becomes, in many "atheistic" Satanists' mind, just a single word that unites many concepts such as the libertarian principle, moral relativism, and self-centered ego, thus suitable to be used as an "idol," with or without the intention of making a connotation to the Biblical Satan, or just pissing off Christians. Like I said above, in this post, our underlying warrants are different.