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    Quote Originally Posted by Proletariat
    I find it difficult too, not for that reason. It's kinda cheap, but you could just blow that off by saying humans were created by God through evolution via apes.
    Well, I dont know any rational person that really thinks man evolved from apes. However, I certainly don't see the disconnect between evolution and the belief in God. It makes far more sense to me to believe that God would've laid down a framework, call it the 'big bang' or whatever, knowing it would function and grow into what we have rather than God just creating the world static, as it exist however many thousands of years ago that the fundamentalists say it was.

    The part that I find particularly fun is when it's argued that life is such a complicated thing it must've been created by a Higher Being. Tell that to a 12 year old in a hospitol with a rapidly mutating strain of HIV that won't react to any of our treatments.
    I dont see how any of the arguments over disease, suffering, or tragedy suggest the lack of God, but I find this argument particularly bad. Has the 12 year old directly done anything to cause himself to get HIV? Most probably not. But, the prevelance of HIV among mankind is almost certainly as a direct result of human actions- promiscuity, IV drug use, ect. To wonder why God would allow a child to get infected isnt a whole lot different than asking why God would allow a murderer's bullet to hit its victim. If one can accept that we have free will, one must also accept that our decisions will have consequences.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hurin_Rules
    I guess that means Catholics aren't Christians?
    According to Navaros? Certainly not. Personally, if you're going to start making a list of the "true Christian" churches, I think the Catholic and Orthodox Churches have a much better claim to it than the ones.
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