Curches Celebrate Darwin's Birthday

**Xiahou** · 02-13-2006, 19:37

Originally Posted by Goofball

Really?

I know hundreds of rational people who believe man evolved from apes. Many of them are also Christians.

Oh, I doubt that.

No serious scientist would suggest man evolved from apes.

**BDC** · 02-13-2006, 19:46

Originally Posted by Xiahou

Oh, I doubt that.

No serious scientist would suggest man evolved from apes.

Apes and humans had a common ancestor...

Darwin was quite a religious man, initially. Until his faith was destroyed by those who insisted on taking the Bible literally over what they could see with their eyes.

An interesting other example would be Gallileo. Does anyone still believe that the Earth is the centre of the universe? Remember it too the Church 200 years to remove one of his books from the Prohibited list. He regarded himself as a really good Catholic too, and had many friends high up in the Church.

**Xiahou** · 02-13-2006, 19:50

Originally Posted by BDC

Apes and humans had a common ancestor...

Hey, somebody gets it.

I would've also accepted 'homo erectus'.

Maybe it's just me, but I find it ironically funny when so-called 'enlightened' folks try to look down on religious people for not believing that humans evolved from apes. Anyone who's looked at the issue at all realizes no one thinks that's true.

**BDC** · 02-13-2006, 20:06

Originally Posted by Xiahou

Hey, somebody gets it.

I would've also accepted 'homo erectus'.

Maybe it's just me, but I find it ironically funny when so-called 'enlightened' folks try to look down on religious people for not believing that humans evolved from apes. Anyone who's looked at the issue at all realizes no one thinks that's true.

Yes.

Of course Homo erectus was only a human ancestor. ;)

Although this whole species thing is a little suspect. If you traveled back in time there wouldn't be a sudden divide, where one generation suddenly couldn't have offspring with the previous. And how do you class species in asexual organisms?

**Bartix** · 02-14-2006, 10:52

Originally Posted by Xiahou

Maybe it's just me, but I find it ironically funny when so-called 'enlightened' folks try to look down on religious people for not believing that humans evolved from apes. Anyone who's looked at the issue at all realizes no one thinks that's true.

I thought that was straw man image of evolution created by creationists.

**Goofball** · 02-15-2006, 01:01

Originally Posted by Xiahou

Oh, I doubt that.

No serious scientist would suggest man evolved from apes.

Sorry, got caught in the semantic trap.

No, humans did not evolve from modern apes. But we did evolve (as did modern apes) from a creature that was so apelike in its appearance if any layman were to see one today he would refer to it as an ape.