LEN Learns To Rock !

[LeftEyeNine]

Hey guys, LEN intends to learn how to rock once more (after reluctantly given up days of drum lessons). I have made up 4 alternatives according to my budget and to the opinions of people around me who are aware of the technical specs of these gadgets. So that I'd like opinion of yours on which one to purchase before my final decision. I'm not a metal fan, -alternative and punk stuff generally. However I'd like to play Anathema and Iced Earth sometimes. So considering these, which one would you recommend me to choose? (All infos copy-pasted directly from their official websites.)

P.S. If you ever come across with quite differences between the prices of the guitars below, never mind. I only have the option to get them locally and the prices of the following guitars have somewhat very close prices in Turkey.

P.S.S. Yes, everyone would like this baby for a start.


SX SEG1



An increadible array of sounds are possible from the powerful pickup configuartaion of Humbucker, Single Coil, Humbucker
24 Jumbo fret neck lets you hit those elusive high notes solos
Dual cutaway solid Alder body is contoured for comfortable play
Bolt on Maple neck with bound Rosewood fretboard and adjustable truss rod
5-way pickup selector switch and one volume and one tone control help tailor your individual sounds
Vintage bridge with whammy bar creates cool sound effects
All black hardware including diecast machines gives this guitar a distinctive look
D'Addario strings installed at the factory
Width of the neck at the nut: 1 5/8"; at the 24th fret: 2 3/16"
Overall length, including the strap button: 39 1/2"; Scale length: 25.5"
Width at the widest point: 12"
Body thickness 1 5/8" at edge
Actual Weight is only 7 lbs



Stagg I-400 BK



I400-BK HEAVY "IFR" ELECTRIC GUITAR
pickups: 2x humbucker -
controls: 1x volume + 1x tone -
pu selector: 3-way toggle switch -
body: solid alder wood -
neck: hard maple / 648mm : 25'' 1/2 -
fingerboard: rosewood / 24 frets -
bridge: classic ''fr'' style tremolo -
machine heads: diecast, chrome -
colour: black



Cort G 210 D



Baswwod Body
Maple Bolt-on Neck
Power Sound Pickups
Artec QDD Built-in Distortion
Full Action II Tremolo
Diecast Tuners


Cort X2

Scale

25 1/2"

Joint

Bolt-on

Neck

Hard rock maple

Body

Basswood

Nut

Graphite(black)

Fretboard

Rosewood

Pickup

neck-Powersound humbucker bridge-Powersound humbucker

Headmachine

Diecasting (Chrome)

Bridge

Full-Action (Chorme)

Endpin

Traditional

Knob

PB type (Chrome)

Fret

Jumbo style (2.9mm x 1.3mm)

No.Fret

24

Fretboard width

1F:21F=43mm:56mm

Fretboard radius

15 3/4"

Neck depth

1F:12F=19mm:21mm

Position mark

White dot

Electronics

1vol-1ton-3way s/w

Available color

BK, RM, BM

[Strike For The South]

make the Turkish Beateles. I dont know much but I wish you luck. You lovable hugable Turk

[LeftEyeNine]

make the Turkish Beateles. I dont know much but I wish you luck. You lovable hugable Turk

I was thinking about Red Hot Chili Janissaries.

Your support is well appreciated, my friend the GMoAtT.

[Byzantine Prince]

I don't know much about guitars, but I just got a bass. I like alternative metal and industrial metal, so this is not the perfect guitar for that but I am just learning right now:

[my amp is not nearly that large ]

Try to get a cheap one for now, preferably with a powerful pickups. You should go to the store and ask around there, what do we orgasms know?

BTW, the more strings the better. I notice that the ones you posted are 6, have you considered a 7?

[Reenk Roink]

Hmm...No Strats ...

Used to wail away SRV licks on my 62 reissue through my little Blues Junior...

somewhat nostalgic...

Anyway, guitar bores me now, I wish I'd played the only true instrument: Drums...

BUT ANYWAY...

The most important thing for your sound will be teh pickups...

I prefer single coil myself, but with the music you listen to, go with the humbuckers, they'll give you a chunky, fat sound...

[GoreBag]

I do vocals, I'm afraid, so everything I know about my equipment (tuhuh) is about what to eat and drink and how to train my throat and gut.

Is this the first time you've begun to play guitar?

[LeftEyeNine]

Yes this is the first time I 'll be playing guitar.

By the way, I heard that Humbuckers are exclusively good for distortion -that's what I'd really like to. The most appealing guitar according to the friends here is SX SEG1. I also heard that there are different brands of pickups like Power Sound and Mightymite. And yeah, I think I should go with powerful pickups with rosewood fretboard. Anyway, go on please.

[Reverend Joe]

I was thinking about Red Hot Chili Janissaries.

Your support is well appreciated, my friend the GMoAtT.

Too bad you don't do psychedelic- you could form Mehmed Airplane.

Well, good luck anyway.

[Ianofsmeg16]

Gah! Guitarists have no use, drummers are twice as good and do twice the work for HALF the girls you show off guitarists get!

But without why guitarists, my band would just be me doin awesome drums for and hour, so good on you for learning guitar!

[Axeknight]

I started playing guitar recently. My advice, of those - Get a Cort. More expensive than a Stagg, but a much better guitar for your money. If you're playing punk rock there's not much point having distortion built into a guitar cause most budget amps have more than enough built-in punch. Get a decent amp, but don't go overboard in case you decide guitar isn't your thing. I tried quite a few amps when buying my first, and found out that you really don't need more than about 15 or 20 watts of noise unless you're playing in public.

When you first start playing, learn a few simple riffs (the staples: Smoke On The Water, Sunshine Of Your Love, 20th Century Boy, that sort of thing) and learn and practise chords.

[GoreBag]

Gah! Guitarists have no use, drummers are twice as good and do twice the work for HALF the girls you show off guitarists get!

But without why guitarists, my band would just be me doin awesome drums for and hour, so good on you for learning guitar!

Psssh. Everyone knows that that bassists are sex machines, but the singers get the most groupies, even though the drummer is the only one allowed to to go without a shirt.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

I was thinking about Red Hot Chili Janissaries.

Your support is well appreciated, my friend the GMoAtT.

RHCP are great...

Good luck with your...uh (too long didn't read) whatever...

I play a Fender Strat...

[LeftEyeNine]

RHCP are great...

Good luck with your...uh (too long didn't read) whatever...

I play a Fender Strat...

Uh, you really have a baby. However I'll first have to make sure myself that I want to play a guitar. That much expense will be considerable thereafter.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

I was thinking about Red Hot Chili Janissaries.

Your support is well appreciated, my friend the GMoAtT.

OMG!

That'd be friggen awesome!

I'd listen to them.

[Reenk Roink]

www.cyberfret.com

Great site for teach-yourself.

I would recommend taking lessons (I hated the thought when I first started) because it gives you direction and disciplined practice rather than just noodling on the fretboard...

[Zomby_Woof]

I am in no way a guitar expert (if we were talking bass it would be completely different though) but I would definitely suggest the SX SEG1 or the Cort X2. All of the guitars you posted are rather similar but I would go to your local stores and just try playing on them a bit. I think you're much better off if you get a chance to get the feel of each guitar before making your pick before going on the advice posted on these forums or given to you by your friends.

[Kommodus]

Excellent! Very good to see someone developing their musical ability. IMHO, everyone should learn to play at least one instrument, at least a little, if at all possible.

So, your friends favor the SX SEG1, huh? It probably will give you a lot of versatility with those three pickups, although I don't know how much you'll actually use the single coil pickup.

The Cort G 210 D looks interesting in that it has that 5-way effects switch. Such a feature could be really useful for switching between rhythm and lead playing - but only if the effects actually sound good. It's hard to tell without playing it.

The Stagg I-400 BK and Cort X2 appear to be in similar classes, in that they are probably solid, few-frills guitars. I actually prefer the more basic design, since I'd rather have a few good sounds that I know well and get a lot of use out of than a lot of poor sounds. (Some musicians like to use a lot of effects and accessories to cover up their lack of talent.) The two humbuckers in each will give you the sound you need for quite a while, but they won't make quite as many sounds as the other two. Between the two, the X2 looks cooler to me.

I myself own a Cort, and I'm pleased enough with it, although it could play better. I'm currently in the market for a Telecaster. The Strat is popular but not my style.

[LeftEyeNine]

So, your friends favor the SX SEG1, huh? It probably will give you a lot of versatility with those three pickups, although I don't know how much you'll actually use the single coil pickup.

Well, there are 2 humbuckers and 1 single coil (so that 5 pickups total) on that SX SEG1. It is powerful then, isn't it

By the way, does this mean that SX has an integrated distortion tone like Cort G210D has?

5-way pickup selector switch and one volume and one tone control help tailor your individual sounds

Anyways, your suggestions are much welcome, thanks for boosting my interest in those loud gadgets

[Reenk Roink]

I only like my metal in grunge format thank you...

Simply Soundgarden and Alice in Chains

[GoreBag]

I only like my metal in grunge format thank you...

Does not compute.

[Reenk Roink]

Does not compute.

Ahem...before the corporate label called "grunge" was applied in 1992, Alice in Chains was marketed as a "Heavy Metal" band for Facelift and Soundgarden were just misfits with their unique sound...

[Kommodus]

Well, there are 2 humbuckers and 1 single coil (so that 5 pickups total) on that SX SEG1. It is powerful then, isn't it

I guess I've always counted the humbuckers as one each, even though that's not technically accurate. The addition of the single coil makes this guitar slightly more versatile than the guitars with just two humbuckers. I've never played a guitar with this pickup configuration, so I'm not sure just how much more versatile it will be.

By the way, does this mean that SX has an integrated distortion tone like Cort G210D has?

No. A humbucker pickup does not provide integrated distortion - just a different sound than the single coil. Very few guitars have integrated distortion; that's almost always the function of the amplifier. Your choice of amp is just as important as your choice of guitar.

This is why I'm a bit wary of the G210D's integrated distortion. Having features like distortion and overdrive built into the guitar seems cool, but what if you end up not liking the built-in effects? Or what if you later decide to use other effects pedals (like most people) to create the sounds you want? Then the built-in ones on the guitar become useless to you.

I'd really recommend trying out the G210D before you consider buying it. Listen to the built-in effects to see if they're any good. Really, you should play any guitar before you buy it - no two guitars are the same, even if they're the same make/model.

[LeftEyeNine]

No. A humbucker pickup does not provide integrated distortion - just a different sound than the single coil. Very few guitars have integrated distortion; that's almost always the function of the amplifier. Your choice of amp is just as important as your choice of guitar.

I did not mean humbuckers while asking this I asked about "5-way pickup selector switch and one volume and one tone control ". Does this feature mean that the guitar has a built-in distortion ?

[Kommodus]

I did not mean humbuckers while asking this I asked about "5-way pickup selector switch and one volume and one tone control ". Does this feature mean that the guitar has a built-in distortion ?

Sorry I misunderstood, but it doesn't matter - the answer's still no. Most electric guitars have one volume control and one tone control, but the tone control only modifies whether the guitar sounds high-pitched or low-pitched (or somewhere in-between). The number of notches on the pickup selector switch is related to the number of pickups - if you have two pickups it will be 3-way; if you have a 3-pickup configuration (such as two double humbuckers and one single coil for a total of five pickups) it will be 5-way. Stratocasters that have three single-coil pickups have a 5-way switch. None of these features provide built-in distortion.