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    Watchmen (2009)

    I just came back from seeing Watchmen at IMAX, and it was really good. I would say this is a must see for anyone who likes comic book adaptations, and I think it's definitely worth the extra money to see it at an IMAX. One downside of IMAX is that the aspect ratio of the image is 1.78:1 rather than the 2.35:1 which you would see in a regular theater.

    The acting was fine, and is not the terrible acting that some people are claiming. What's in the movie sticks very close to the graphic novel as far as I've read into the novel in both story content and visuals to an amazing degree. There is some stuff in the novel that's left out of the movie, and supposedly the movie ending is different than the novel. I don't know how much this impacts the story because I've only read the first 25% of the novel. Certainly, the movie, up to the point I had gotten in the novel, is excellent. After that, I couldn't tell if the dialog was still as sharp as in the novel. I did get a bit confused at a couple of places in the movie after that, and I wasn't sure I understood the character's motivations at all times. However, this is part of the point of the story because human motivations are not always on the surface and easy to determine.

    The Watchmen as a movie leaves a much bigger impact than a graphic novel could ever hope to leave. It took me hours to get back to my normal state of mind after seeing the movie which is something the graphic novel doesn't do to me. I got caught up in this universe of comic book heroes turned real. These are not the same comic book heroes in the comic books, but are people inspired by the 1930's comic book heroes to wear costumes and fight crime. Each of these super hero characters represent a type of person, and they are flawed just as most people are flawed. The movie seems to favor a particular 'type' of person which is a very common thing done in movies, but I don't know if the novel does that.

    The story works on two levels. Firstly, are the stories of each individual Watchman which was a second generation of crime fighters formed around 1960, and there is also a small amount of story about the original group called the Minutemen which was formed in 1945. Secondly, there is the larger story of the ills afflicting society on an individual, national and international level as a result of the interactions of billions of flawed humans. The constant spectre of a possible WWIII between the USA and the Soviet Union casts it's shadow over everyday life. The story is set in 1985 New York, and there are flashbacks to the 1970's, 1960's, 1950's and 1940's. The graphic novel has many visual references to the seediness of life in the city. It seemed to me that here is less of this in the movie, but I think the point is made well enough. The movie is 2 hours and 43 minutes long. Nobody in front of me got up to go to the bathroom while the movie was playing, and many of these people had bought big sodas at the start of the movie.

    The story has actual historical events over this period of time very well integrated into it. The science is loosely based on Einstein's Theory of Relativity which is ok. His view of how the universe works is challenged by Quantum Mechanic theory which Einstein didn't accept. However, this distinction is not made in the story. Einstein believed the universe was completely deterministic, but Quantum Mechanics allows for the universe to possibly be non-deterministic. Einstein made his famous statement that "God doesn't play dice with the universe." with reference to Quantum Mechanic Theory. Alan Moore does postulate the existence of a force beyond gravity which holds everything together. Einstein also thought he had missed a force and put a cosmological constant in his equations to account for it, but he later removed the cosmological constant. Of interesting note is a quote at the end of chapter IV:

    "The release of atom power has changed everything except our way of thinking... The solution to this problem lies in the heart of mankind. If only I had known, I should have become a watchmaker" - Albert Einstein

    As a teenager in high school, Dr Manhatten wanted to be a watchmaker like his father. This isn't really brought out very well in the movie. I think somewhat better character development could have been done on Dr. Manhatten in the movie.

    You could interpret the term "Watchmen" not only as someone who watches for social wrongdoing, but also someone who tries to put society back together in such a way that it functions smoothly the way a watchmaker reassembles a watch after fixing it. One of the Watchmen is actually focused on that goal as opposed to directly fighting crime. You could also see the term as an indication of the 'passing of time' linking with the previous generation "Minutemen" in a 'cause and effect' relationship. Responsibility for actions in a deterministic universe is discussed in the novel, but not in the movie.

    The story might seem dated because it was written around 1985 when the Soviet Union still existed and the cold war was still going on. However, human nature and the social problems it causes in the story are still with us today, and the philosophy and science haven't advanced that much, so on those levels it hasn't really dated. Even today despite the technological advancements of the last 25 years, the neglect of economic stability has made everyday life less safe due to rising crime rates in bad economic times. The international situation also isn't really any better either. The idea behind the final catharsis of the story goes back to an idea in a Robert Heinlen novel written in the 1950's, exists in a classic sci-fi movie from the 1950's and may have roots in classic literature.

    The soundtrack is old songs, some from the 1960's, and works very well. The opening is particularly effective with Bob Dylan's "The Times They are a Changing" over a montage of scenes outlining the history of the original Minutemen. I'm not sure but I don't think the ending is a Hollywood cop-out, as was the movie ending of 'V for Vendetta'. However, I found the ending to be the weakest part of the movie except that I liked the epilogue. I expect that Alan Moore's ending of the graphic novel is probably darker and possibly better, but I don't know. Once again, he removed his name from this movie adaptation of his novel as he did with 'V for Vendetta'.
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    Jaws
    i liked it. the suspense was just horrific, and it really got to me, especially that floating head.
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    Prom Night: 10/10


    BEST spoof of an actual horror movie I've ever seen*. I was practically rolling on the ground laughing most of the time. A MUST see.

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    Whether it was the killer looking like the Geico caveman at the start, turning into a Billy Bob Thornton/Ninja hybrid by midway through the movie, the lead girl's date looking like he was 28 years old, the constant surprise people displayed at finding the dead body right next to them that they'd missed for 5 minutes previously, the Hogwarts hotel where penthouses can somehow be fit into the size of a normal hotel room, or the exceedingly ludicrous plot devices that kept cropping up to make sure everyone had to go back to the room one at a time and never noticing people never came back, this movie really went all out.






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    pineapple express
    10/10
    SO FUNNY!
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    The Rock
    9.7/10
    arguably one of th ebest movies ive ever seen. not to mention, the soundtrack it also amazing.
    plus it has some of the funniest lines:
    your best? losers always whine about their best. winners go home and (bleep) the prom queen!
    and then theres the line
    some snipers going to get his ass
    made me laugh multiple times.
    plus the combat scenes are great!

    loses .3 of a point b/c the sex scene was kinda lame.
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    Prom Night: 10/10
    Yeh, kinda like Evil Dead, so bad it's funny.

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    Pineapple Express
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    I love that movie.
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    March of the Penguins
    Greatest movie ever.
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    Role Models. Yeh, alright had some funny parts. The ending was terrible, so bad.
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    Gran Torino

    For the fans of old Clint 10/10, for the rest 8/10. The magnifique acting of the old man takes it all.
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    Death Race
    9/10

    amazing action, but could have used more time getting to know the characters, and needed a sex scene.
    just my humble opinion.
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    I Love You, Man. Dumb comedy with loosely sketched characters. It was entertaining but not really a theater movie, I would've been happier renting it and watching it at home. Some genuinely funny moments. Maybe a decent date movie?


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    Spiderman 3 is possibly the worst movie I have ever seen. It had no redeeming factors, it was so kitsch, so bad, so ugh! Yuck, I need to rinse my mind and brain matter to remove the stain that movie left.
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    Death Race
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    amazing action, but could have used more time getting to know the characters, and needed a sex scene.
    just my humble opinion.
    considering that 99% of that movie takes place in a prison......NO!....just NO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    considering that 99% of that movie takes place in a prison......NO!....just NO!
    what about at the beginning when he and his wife were about to get it on? they could have been halfway through when the baby starts crying...
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    The Air I Breath.

    Sigh. Now how many times are they going to make the exact same movie. A few seperated storylines, but guess what, they are all connected! Brilliant! Didn't I see that before, yes, the exact same thing. It even has the exact same type of music.

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    Saving Private Ryan
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    one of the best war movies ever!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Sigh. Now how many times are they going to make the exact same movie.
    I just watched Kiss of Death (1946) yesterday, and was amazed at how close the plot is to Gran Torino (2008). The earlier film doesn't have the racism theme.

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    Los Cronocrímenes (Timecrimes) (2008) written and directed by Nacho Vigalondo is a well done and interesting thriller based on the possibility of time travel. The handling of the details in the multiple repetitions of scenes from different perspectives is very well done. It does get confusing, but I didn't see any flaws or plot holes. I would say the acting is average except for the director who plays a secondary part and is below average. The film is not high budget, but it is sufficient to tell the story.

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    Platoon
    10/10
    this was such a good movie! i could watch it over and over and over and over and over and over and over....
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    Just saw Adventureland.

    Different from what I expected, which was a sort of Superbad-style comedy.

    This was wholly different from that. It was a comedy drama, and a good movie. Better than just a good movie. It made me care more for the characters than I do for most movies. Great acting and a great performance by Bill Hader. Definitely seemed more real, more realistic, than most movies. Nor did it sacrifice comedy, though obviously it wasn't a laugh-a-minute farce.

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    Death Race (Unrated) (2008) is a well done action picture staring Jason Statham that delivers thrilling car racing sequences and tough guy action. The camera work and special effects are excellent. The plot is simple and straight forward. I haven't seen the theatrical release, although, it is included on the DVD.

    Babylon A. D. (Uncut) (2008) is a poorly done action picture starring Vin Diesel. The plot is a confusing mess that brings in too many disparate ideas and causes the character's motivations to be baffling. The action sequences are shot up close with lots of fast cutting making it impossible to coherently follow the action, and there are too many influences from other films incorporated into the visuals. You are beaten over the head with the religious references which are absurd and obvious. Also Michelle Yeoh is wasted.

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    Munich
    4/10

    Meir Dagan, current head of the Mossad, puts it nicely:
    "entertainment? maybe. accurate? absolutely not!"
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    Munich
    4/10

    Meir Dagan, current head of the Mossad, puts it nicely:
    "entertainment? maybe. accurate? absolutely not!"
    Munich is definately one of Spielberg finest, loved it. A few incredibly chilling scenes, Spielberg is great at making violence repulsive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Munich is definately one of Spielberg finest, loved it. A few incredibly chilling scenes, Spielberg is great at making violence repulsive.
    aye, but if it wasnt for the fact they got all the most important facts wrong....
    for instance-
    --a mossad assasination team, called a Katsa always has a woman on the team (to help the team get closer to the target)
    --Katsas never have doubts about their mission. if they did, they wouldnt have been katsas, for to be katsas they undergo intense pschycological examination and if there is the smallest chance that the potential agent will have doubts, he/she is no good.
    --there was never a forgerer on the team. it is impossible to make high quality fogeries in the field. all forged documents were made back at the mossad base.
    --there was never a bomb-maker, for the same reason as the forgerer. all bombs were sent with them.

    i got all this info from Gideons Spies (a book about the mossad). its a great book. read it if you can.
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    Saw Rise of the Lycans last week. Nice time killer. Maybe a date movie with the correct type of partner.
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    Munich
    4/10
    I had already figured that it wasn't historically accurate, but it was a great movie regardless. Spielberg certainly knows how to build up suspense.

    The one thing that seemed totally ridiculous in hindsight (it didn't occur to me while watching it) was that Avner and his chief were discussing his mission while walking down a boulevard

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    it only went to 4/10 because of its HORRENDOUS innacuracies. it would have gotten much higher otherwise.
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    "Knowing"

    Not sure whether to hate it or like it. The beginning was... too Omen-y, the first half was nice (they got some pretty nice scary bits in there) but some parts were just ridiculus, the second half was even better, especially towards the end... and then the last scene ruins it. They should have stopped two minutes before the end.

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    Chocolate (2008) directed by Prachya Pinkaew is a martial arts action film about an autistic girl named Zen who develops martial arts skills as she is growing up, and finds it necessary to eventually use those skills to help her mother. I watched the 92 minute US/UK version rather than the 110 minute Thai version. The dramatic story telling technique allowed a long time line of character development to be effectively covered fairly quickly which left plenty of time for the action sequences. The action sequences are where this film excels, and 24 year old JeeJa Yanin is spectacular as Zen doing all of her own fight scenes, and getting injured many times in the process as did many of the stunt men as well. These fight sequences build in intensity to an incredible finale which has to be seen to be believed. There were several scenes in this finale where JeeJa is obviously wearing a wire, but in most of this sequence she doesn't seem to be wearing one.
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    Seven Samurai- So I finally saw what everyone is dubbing an epic masterpiece, and I must say I was impressed. I'm not drooling over it like I've seen posters from various parts of the net do, but I will say it definitely is one of the best films I have seen.
    9/10

    Chopper- A movie about an Australian who was a "Robin Hood" and it follows him during a period of his life. I must say I don't really know the history of the guy, but it was a funny movie and Eric Bana was hilarious, not to mention there was a time where I forgot it was him lol.
    7/10
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