Europa Universalis III

[phred]

Paradox is making EUIII.
Here's the announcement and some concept art at The Wargamer.
http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=3052#

release date is early 2007.


edit:
here's a Q&A at Gamespot
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/...ml?sid=6144284

[Sjakihata]

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[Martok]

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I assume that was a scream of frustration, yes?

[BelgradeWar]

Let's hope they do a good job. I've played both EU I and II, and managed to win the game with pretty much every important faction. Despite being a great game, the re is sure a vast area for improvements - especially in military part. The introduction of different unit types (especially in term of quality) and more options for battle control would be nice. So it would be to have more options for building in provinces. And they should keep the good diplomacy model.

[Samurai Waki]

*Does a Little Dance in my Office and shrinks behind my desk after three people see me*

[Blodrast]

sounds great - it's a cool series, no reason not to continue it...

[phred]

As long as they improve the combat system, I'll be happy.
I get irritated just thinking about having to chase those defeated armies that "retreated" forward through your lines.

[ShadesWolf]

I hope we will get a Vicky 2.

EU2 is a great game I keep going back for more, so with the release of EU3 i'm sure it will be on my shopping list for Christmas.

[Vladimir]

Am I going to have to bring out my industrial strength fly swatter again?

[GoreBag]

Aye, that was awful. They don't do that in Vicky, or HoI2. So I imagine they won't do it in EU3.

They do it on occasion in HoI2.

[GoreBag]

It happens if a unit is defeated before it becomes entirely encircled. If the area where it is retreating is captured, and then the capturing units leave before the retreating units arrive, they will recapture the taken province. Of course, by that time, encircling them again is usually no longer a problem, but in pitched battles with thick lines on both sides, it can cause some very big problems surrounding pockets and supply routes.

[GoreBag]

Noted.

[phred]

a little more info and screenshots

http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=3196#

[Sjakihata]

• Co-operative multiplayer mode allows several players to work together to control a single nation.

• The great people and personalities of the past are on hand to support you. Take history in your hands and call personalities like Sir Isaac Newton, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart or René Descartes to your court.

• Have more than a thousand historical leaders and over 4000 historical Monarchs at your disposal.

This is really good news, a good cooperative mode and a good touch of roleplaying element, I cant wait for this game to come out!

Edit: I dont like the map though, just looked at the screenies, it looks too much like the RTW map. I'd prefer the old map map.

[Mongoose]

Hmm, I've never played any of the other Paradox games, but I think I'll keep an eye on this one. the MP looks good at least...

[lancelot]

Im a die-hard paradox worshipper thanks to vicky and HOI2, Inever played EU 1 & 2...

But I have to say, I hope they raise the bar a bit with the graphics, those screenies didnt have me wetting myself...

Although I suppose it is early days yet...

[Samurai Waki]

The Map still appears to be Alpha or very Early Beta. So I think eventually it'll be much nicer looking.

[Sjakihata]

But I have to say, I hope they raise the bar a bit with the graphics, those screenies didnt have me wetting myself...

If you want graphic, dont get a paradox game, it would be like cheating yourself. If you want the best strategy (empire builder) game ever, do get a paradox game.

[Bijo]

What does my eye see? O, it's-- AN UPCOMING SP DEMO!

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/event/...premier=eu_iii

I'll download it sometime this week to check it out Until they've reached the last patch for M2TW (the time wherein I won't touch it at all) I need a new strategy game to plunge myself into.

[AntiochusIII]

I want my map back!!11!!1!

That map is so not Paradox. I can't stand it. A Total War or a Civilization with that map? Fine. A Paradox with that pseudo-3D thing? NOT fine.

But I'll get the game anyway.

[Yes, yes. I'm complaining about nothing against a glorious upcoming game. I know that. I just like to complain. This is the internet after all ]

[Sjakihata]

Soon January 23 (26 for EU) is coming, the game will be released soon. Who else is getting it?

[Lorenzo_H]

This seems to be a big game. I have never heard/played it before. After you've finished gasping in shock, could someone please explain the game and gameplay to me?

[Slyspy]

You take a country and lead it to glory. Or make it a great trading nation. Or a great colonial nation. Or you take a nation like Granada or Byzantium and see whether you can keep it alive. Or take the Aztecs on a conquest of Europe.

You control the economy, military, religion and diplomacy of your nation as well as its politic nature, and are free to shape it as you will. Want a totalitarian Catholic England or a liberal Protestant Spain? Well, with a bit of work, you can. Historical figures and events can make these distortions tricky, but the freedom is there.

The learning curve is a bit steep in Paradox games, but once you get the hang of them they are great strategy fare. Just don't try Victoria as your first Paradox game!

[Sjakihata]

Just don't try Victoria as your first Paradox game!

Why not?

Really, you can take any country you like and then you control its politics, economics, military, diplomacy and technology.

The diplomacy is very well made and you can form alliances and trade. It's the best grand scale strategy game.

[SwordsMaster]

It's getting here on the 2nd of February. Ah well, thats another 2 weeks.

[Vladimir]

If I have to play this one with a fly swatter in my left hand I'll be pissed. But I am looking forward to it.

[Lorenzo_H]

Although this looks like a good game with considerable depth and strategy, it looks that I won't be getting it.

There are simply too many games out there to choose from. I already have enough though. Medieval 2 Total War and Civilization IV are enough to contend with for now. Although I would love to lead a Protestant Spain on a world conquering glory crusade, I can do it already in 2 fabulous games, can't I?

[FesterShinetop]

Demo is out at the usual sites!!
Pity I don't have time to try it until tomorrow... but I am sure some people will leave their impressions before that!!!

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Although this looks like a good game with considerable depth and strategy, it looks that I won't be getting it.

There are simply too many games out there to choose from. I already have enough though. Medieval 2 Total War and Civilization IV are enough to contend with for now. Although I would love to lead a Protestant Spain on a world conquering glory crusade, I can do it already in 2 fabulous games, can't I?

It's...different. Paradox games are works of art. I personally believe that Civilization pales when compared to a Paradox game, especially Victoria or HOI2.

M2TW, IMO, you can't really compare to anything Paradox puts out. It's a different kind of game. You really have to try it. Once you do, there's no going back.

[AntiochusIII]

^ Agree with him, that.

Paradox Games are flexible to a very wonderful level. So you can go on a glorious Crusade with Spain in M2TW right? Well, can you go on a glorious Crusade with a Calvinist Spain while at the same time marching on Tenochtitlan, Samarkand, and the Chesapeake all at once? Oh, while you're on that, why don't you tinker with your government's degree of centralization a bit? And prepare yourself for an all-out war with England, too, since Elizabeth will soon be taking the throne over there.