The Cassae Battle Line - A few questions (Possible Spoilers?)

[the_handsome_viking]

I've had a similar experience while playing the Casse.

I've been really tempted to make an army of Rhyfelwyr simply due to the fact that they are so vicious in a fight.

Most of my army currently has been Boatroas with three units of heavy Celtic cavarly(which by the way are recruitable in the city on the south eastern tip of Britain, Vack07) I'm not really sure if I should try and go with more spearmen instead of swordsmen, but the Boatroas just seem so very...Celtic, the epic image of a guy in checkered trousers, with a cape, a sturdy shield and a longsword with dyed, spiked up, blonde hair just looks too cool, and because of this, gets recruited more...heh.

[Ranika]

The Gaeroas are better with their javelins, I believe, and more useful when fighting on the continent in some ways, because of the presence of cavalry. They also have an easier time killing chariots, and hold in a line better. The idea is to use Gaeroas to screen (they're cheaper to replace to, so more losses with them is less of a problem), and circle your Botroas around to flank the enemy, using everything else as support, pretty much. Skirmishers should be in soon, to screen ahead of all of them, and chariots and elites have already had their purpose explained.

[Vack07]

That's a good tactic Ran, but I'm looking at the units, and wouldn't Rhyfelwyr be much better for flanking? THey get a huge charge bonus, they're faster moving, better stamina, much higher morale, and they have more javelins to toss before the charge.

[Ranika]

That's a good tactic Ran, but I'm looking at the units, and wouldn't Rhyfelwyr be much better for flanking? THey get a huge charge bonus, they're faster moving, better stamina, much higher morale, and they have more javelins to toss before the charge.

They only come from a single province, their discipline is much poorer, and they actually were supposed to be toned down a bit, and will be, so no, the Botroas are a superior unit, or will be. Gaeroas should be used to fight in front. Also, why are they still called Rhyfelwyr? Damn placeholder names, no one cleans them up.

[Vack07]

At this point in time though, does discipline really outway the charge bonus, extra ranged attacks, movement speed, and moral bonuses that Rhyfelwyr have? What does the discipline really give you for a flanking unit? Sorry, I don't mean to sound nasty :) I'm just curious, because currently my army is getting attacked by Aedui and Sweboz, they're pinned on a bridge, and I need all the help I can get!

On a side note - How're the hammer troops from Ireland? I was looking at their stats, and they seemed on par with Kluddargos, with half the up keep. Would they be a good unit to have to flank with? They've got roughly the same charge bonus as RHyfelwyr, but they have much better stats while actually fighting.

[galathas]

I only use the hammerwielders against heavy cav and heavy infantry. They die to easy to be wasted as normal flankers. I all my briton armies i have at least one of those hammer units to pound the crap out sweboz ferulharjoz, equites singulares and princeps and triarii. Actually i found they can only be used when most of the enemy battleline is already engaged. Then i run them around wihcih is quite simple due to their speed and small unit size. Warcry and off they go into the back of the heaviest troops on the field. They are especially usefull when fighting heavily armoured unit with a high experience. The ferulharjoz of the sweboz can wipe out several units espiecially when they are expericened. But if you are able to pin them with cheap meat you can run those irish boys in their back and save a lot of your good men.

[Sarcasm]

I only use the hammerwielders against heavy cav and heavy infantry. They die to easy to be wasted as normal flankers. I all my briton armies i have at least one of those hammer units to pound the crap out sweboz ferulharjoz, equites singulares and princeps and triarii. Actually i found they can only be used when most of the enemy battleline is already engaged. Then i run them around wihcih is quite simple due to their speed and small unit size. Warcry and off they go into the back of the heaviest troops on the field. They are especially usefull when fighting heavily armoured unit with a high experience. The ferulharjoz of the sweboz can wipe out several units espiecially when they are expericened. But if you are able to pin them with cheap meat you can run those irish boys in their back and save a lot of your good men.

Textbook aplication of the Ordmhornaghts (hammertroops). They have armour piercing ability so that's absolutely good thinking.